Mayweather V Ortiz USADA testing results!!!!

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  1. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    nah, if the test comes from the commission itself, i don't think pac would have opposed it. he did not even opposed floyd's demand, he did not just want to agreed on it fully.
     
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    same as the test that 99.999% of other professional boxers are taking around the world. so what happened to floyd's olympic style testing?
     
  3. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    So Pac didn't agree to the demand fully, but he would agree to an even stricter version :tired

    Floyd's OSDT w/ cutoff: Fine
    Floyd's OSDT: Too strict
    Longer OSDT: OK :blood
    :rofl:rofl
     
  4. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    you failed to read on one important point:

    "if the test comes from the commission itself"



    and floyd's OSDT is a misnomer. it's not an OSDT.
     
  5. Devildoc

    Devildoc Capo Di Tutti Capi Full Member

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    LOL How can I trust you when your main source of argument keeps flip flopping on his statements?

    You mean to say Pac can't have a say to anything regarding negotiation? If Floyd tells Pac to jump and Pac declines, does that mean pac doesn't want to fight? Please. Your loyalty to floyd is beyong Foolish. You don't even think beyond what Floyd really is telling the public which brings me back to your question I answered. Again, I don't trust you.
     
  6. Concrete

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    I don't see how Mayweather doing full yr round testing is going to inspire other boxers to follow suit especially if its going to have to come out of there own pockets. If he did it, sure it in some way give him more credibility when claiming he is clean, (though you haters will just claim he is beating the test and still cheating so I don't know why you act like doing yr round testing is going to change of your perception of him). But it doesn't protect him from other boxers who may not be clean. The point isn't for just Mayweather to prove he is clean but for every fighter who steps in the ring with him.

    I don't see the commission enforcing full yr round random blood and urine testing for all boxers due to cost.

    Given these circumstances the best way to do it is to negotiate it through contract per fight. Mayweather could do full yr random blood and urine testing, but then have his opponents do the random testing during training camp with him. I guess that would be the only alternative that would make sense.
     
  7. Devildoc

    Devildoc Capo Di Tutti Capi Full Member

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    These people are beyond stupid. It seems as if they don't have a mind of their own. They just follow what Floyd tells them. I mean damn. I bet if Floyd tells them it's ok to suck dick coz he's sucking Ellerbe's dick, they'll start a thread about sucking dick.
     
  8. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    So Manny saying that the blood tests will weaken him is all bull**** then. he just doesn't want to give in to Floyd
    What the hell does that have to do with what I said?

    You seem to think pac would be ok to doing an ecen stricter version of the test he's currently refusing to do and now you're trying to change the subject because you realized what you said is dumb
     
  9. Devildoc

    Devildoc Capo Di Tutti Capi Full Member

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    LOL what made you so sure that Pac is avoiding drug testing when there are numerous videos of both Pac and Arum stating that YES they are agreeing to Floyd's demands and it's not an issue anymore and yet, you keep going back to 2009-2010.

    You are just getting dumber and dumber when you post regarding OSDT. Quit living in the past chump.
     
  10. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    what took you so long to realize this? i don't actually say that pac is lying about the blood extraction phobia since there was a video before that will prove that he has bad experience with it but if the commission would make this a standard practice, pac would ahve no choice but to follow or risk not getting a license or a fight, or be suspended.

    but pac, not giving in fully to floyd's previous demands is somewhat an ego thing and/or not giving in to floyd's mind games specially after floyd and his camp had accused him publicly of taking PEDs.
     
  11. freddy-wak

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    :rofl
     
  12. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    You mean when they agreed to the tests in 2009?
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGd8r7G7Mxo[/ame]
    and a few days later
    http://www.aolnews.com/2009/12/13/pacquiao-would-welcome-random-drug-test/

    or how about 2010?
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MF0_E-vEltI[/ame]

    Now remember after both of these instances, they later came out and revealed that it was a lie. :hi:
    Ring Magazine's latest issue said Roach didn't know the exact details on the drug testing issue, but he knows they are working on a cutoff
     
  13. Devildoc

    Devildoc Capo Di Tutti Capi Full Member

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    Again, you are avoiding to answer what I just told you that you just don't think. As I said, you just believe that Pac should just jump whenever Floyd tells him to jump. After 2 years of bull**** coming from Floyd, Pac just decided to just submit to Floyd's demands and get Floyd in the ring but Floyd keeps changing his mind.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBRpJKx4F2Q[/ame]

    Besides, you still fail to defend what happened when Ellerbe came out stating that there was no second negotiation that took place and told everyone arum was lying. Greenburg came out and say yes it did happen, Both Top Rank and GBP including Haymon agreed and was getting ready to have the fight made but Floyd said he doesn't want to fight.

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  14. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Floyd has been the one to compromise on almost everything since the start. The only thing he's really stuck by was the drug testing and he was even compromisng on that at first also.
    Pacquiao has gotten most of everything he wanted for this fight.
    The only thing his team didn't get was to fight at a catchweight.
    Floyd compromised on
    Drug testing (in the past)
    money split
    glove size
    weight penalty
    date of the fight (he wanted it in May, Pac wanted it in march)
    ring size

    Plus when ellerbe means there are no negotiaitons, he means that Arum never contacted neither him or Al Haymon at all. And they never agreed to the test and if they didn't agree to that, then there was nothing to negotiate about
     
  15. Devildoc

    Devildoc Capo Di Tutti Capi Full Member

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    LOL nice way to avoid the topic, dumbass. Like I said before, *****s defending Floyd is pointless and void... kinda like Floyd. :lol: