Past welterweights that you think would beat Floyd Mayweather

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  1. tbp82

    tbp82 Active Member Full Member

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    I know you guys hate Mayweather but most of these list are way to long. Here's my list with guys who were weleterweights.


    Sugar Ray Robinson
    Sugar Ray Leanord
    Thomas Hearns
    Prime De La Hoya
    Henry Armstrong
     
  2. Dipset

    Dipset Dipset4Ever Full Member

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    Any fighter can be beaten....especially if you carry on into the twilight of your career.
    You may just lose by default...hench the term "he got old over night"

    e.g. Tyszu vs Hatton
     
  3. SouthpawJab

    SouthpawJab On his way up!! 4-0!! Full Member

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    De La Hoya doesn't have the boxing ability to beat Floyd..

    Both Sugars could do it.
    Hearns could do it, but it would have to be early as he was known to tire.
    Sweet Pea, but it would be a really boring technical fight with neither guy landing clean much.
     
  4. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mayweather is no Leonard. He doesn't have Leonard's legs...

    This is why Duran would beat him.
     
  5. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Armstrong would also beat Mayweather. He wouldn't allow Mayweather to rest. He would be in his chest the entire fight.

    It's up to Mayweather to prove otherwise by showing us he still has his legs.
     
  6. pmfan

    pmfan Active Member Full Member

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    Agreed. Welterweight Hearns is way too strong and skilled for PBF. PBF would have simply waited for Hearns to move up in weight. Of course, in the days of Leonard and Hearns, Mayweather would probably have stayed a lightweight (after Duran moved up).
     
  7. boxeo#1

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  8. smoovemann

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  9. boxeo#1

    boxeo#1 Boxer-Puncher banned

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    I guess many people say ''prime'' De La Hoya because they think since he lost a SD non-prime he will win when in-prime.

    Prime DLH lost to Mosley (first fight) because he fought way too one dimensional and tense. The Quartey and Whitaker fights were very close too.

    DLH (who is one of my favourite fighters ever) could be able to beat Floyd if he had a good gameplan which he would execute (something he didn't had/did against Mosley and Trinidad).
     
  10. boxeo#1

    boxeo#1 Boxer-Puncher banned

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    :lol::lol:ROFL


    I agree with Mosley though.
     
  11. boxeo#1

    boxeo#1 Boxer-Puncher banned

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    Pu-lease.
     
  12. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    We've never seen Floyd up against a constant, ram-rod jab from a stronger opponent with a tight defense. I think Quartey's style would cause Floyd big problems.

    There are a couple (along with that one) I'd probably revise to being 50-50 instead of outright favouring the others to win, though.
     
  13. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd was better at the lower weights, flat out, no arguing that. He's much more flat-footed at Welterweight, more organised but in a much narrower way. He doesn't box well off the back foot any more, least of all not well enough to quell a prime Duran. He relies on his shell/counter-punching (often against the ropes) far too much to see him to success against a fighter like Duran, who was one of the very best (if not the best) feinting his way in, at interspersing between offensive and defensive positions at the blink of an eye, switching between body and head, angling on the inside, etc. Just one of the best inside fighters of all time, and without question the most skilled I've ever seen. Poison for Mayweather, and Duran was every bit as good against Leonard and Palomino as he was at Lightweight.

    I've heard your other points, and for someone with Duran in your avatar you really don't seem to have him pegged very well. I'd suggest going back to the drawing board.
     
  14. boxeo#1

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    I (obviously) agree that Quartey's jab would be a good weapon against Floyd. But the/his jab alone won't do the trick I think. Keeping Floyd at bay with a powerful jab and having good D won't win him the fight.
    I see Floyd figuring him out after a few rounds.

    I believe his jab would be effective up to a certain extent. Definitely. But winning? I don't see this happening.
     
  15. big_AL

    big_AL P4P #1 Full Member

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    wow duran was a good inside fighter? i didn't know that,thanks for the tip:yep its kinda rich for you to say i don't know a fighter when you claim mayweather is flat footed at welter.he is now but in his prime he has shown he can move very well when he needs to and fight off the back foot (see the hatton fight- in my opinion floyd's best at welter).granted,hatton is no duran but duran always had a tendency to get hit with the left hook.de jesus dropped him with it twice in their two fights,leonard had some success with it in the 1st fight when duran came inside.not too mention benitez,another defensive maestro,lasered duran with rights and frustrated him all night (although that wasn't at welter).mayweather leaning against the ropes would give duran opportunites no doubt but floyd is great in the pocket and imo good enough to go to work with short left hooks and uppercuts even against duran.he wouldn't win the inside game but he wouldn't be demolished there either.floyd is also smart enought o avoid clinches with duran as roberto was by far the stronger man and was of course very dirty in close quarters.floyd would win the fight with right hands and left hooks in a 115-113 type decision.duran's feints and head movements were one of his strongest assets but i can't see them working against a defense as tight as floyd's or in the centre of the ring where floyd is lightening quick and contrary to your estimation quite good on the back foot.in the end it would be duran's own frustration that would win the day,the same as it did in the first de jesus fight and 2nd leonard fight.sure duran was a great,fast,strong,smart fighter.however he wasn't disciplined to fight against a guy like floyd and his combinations wouldn't land clean.

    and btw he was every bit as good as he ever was against leonard and palomino but those were special fights.every athlete really only has a couple of those nights where he just can't/won't lose e.g. frazier vs ali 1

    and please give me a lend of your drawing board,i'd love to draw godzilla vs king kong in a boxing ring!:D