If it is easy to use PEDS in boxing, why are we not seeing many superboxers?

how will a new testsolve this if the ped makers are 1 step ahead of them? well just because they are 1 step ahead shouldn't mean that you just give up. i think we can al agree that promoters and bs belt makers get plenty of money trew their hands, so money "shouldn't" be a problem .

do i support floyds type of osdt? yes, wether his reason is to get out of the fight against manny or to clean up the sport it doesn't matter , it's the right direction to be going in.
i don't think it's the first 1

i don't know the names of the peds that they were taking and i don't think i could remember if i wanted to, they could hardly say it themselves lol. some were saying that they've put loads of muscle on others saying they felt stronger and faster, one he just got the shits :yep but most were saying they could tell the difference quite quickly and you could see it but they either didn't take them for long $$, or they seemed to get injuries quite often. one ended up in jail but wether that was the peds or just him im not sure. it still didnt help them that much none of them have done anything special and i can't see it happening anytime soon. they just haven't got the required skills to succeed. all they got for their trouble was me taking the **** out of them.

 

Marquez on PEDS would be scary lol

 

I don't know, but I will give him the benefit of the doubt like I do all fighters. If he was on steroids though then it helped him become the #2 ranked P4P fighter in the world at one point.

 

PEDS can't turn a **** boxer into a ATG, they can however push you over the top in close fights. For example, Give Charlie Zelenoff Peds and Plaster and stick him in with Miguel Cotto, he will come back in a pine box. But give that to Antonio Margarito, and he's Welterweight Champion.

 

Predictable, I new you would say this even though I have never said Pac was on PEDS, and even stated multiple times that I don't think he is on PEDS.

Just because I believe the testing should have never been an issue doesn't mean that I believe Pac is on PEDS.

 

2 for one, pac never started his career at 130.. he started at 113 and came into his prime at 126 with wins against berrera and marquez .. then eight years later mowed down what was supposedly one of the strongest welters today.. this has never been done in the history of the sport, not that can't be done but extremely difficult for any fighter to do .. take that how ever you want and justify it however you will.

 

That is only valid if your assumption that Pac's pprime was at 126.

Some are saying his prime is at 122 because of his record there.

I reckon 140 would actually be his prime weight. It is at this weight division where he already had experience, punch variety and still not over his physical prime in terms of athleticism. At 126, he looked like skeleton during weigh-ins.

 

i neve said that the chance's of getting caught are nill but you will never catch everyone,how many unsolved crimes in the world? i suppose we might aswel just give up on that then aswel
and again if you dont have the talent to use that extra strength and speed your not going to improve much in boxing but skill+extra strength and speed= 1 crazy ****ing boxer

7 day cut off is not random drug testing, its in the name "random" and again why do we have to assume thats what he said? why not come out and say it properly instead of avoiding the matter like manny does all the time, or the different stories we get all the time from his team. if floyd doesn't want the fight and manny's got nothing to hide manny should call mayweather out on his testing and agree. then if it falls apart for whatever reason and it's mayweather's fault manny doesn't have all of this ped use hanging around because u know the *****s are going to keep banging that drum.

 

This another one of those PEDS don't help boxers threads? OR are we saying PEDS will be detected by the standard testing, so that's why we're not seeing it?

 

all im saying is that osdt is better than whats already in place. u cant improve something if you dont try its all about small steps its the same with everything, "you got to learn to walk before you can run" and just because u dont catch everyone all at ounce doest mean you have to stop chasing them, the testers are always coming up with new ways aswel, new ped+time=new test to just give up is admitting defeat. what ever the reason drugs became an issue it doesn't matter the amateurs have better testing than the pro's. do i think every boxer is on peds no, am im stupid enough to think no one takes them no, but why not try and prove to the world that your doing something about it.

 

Because Boxing talent is hard to find and even when you find it, the GOOD drugs are too expensive for all but the BEST paid fighters.

This is the stupidity of Pac fans. It doesn't matter what you see or don't see. No Boxing fan should be supporting LESS testing. No Boxing fan should be supporting a fighter who refuses to drug test. Period.

 

I still don't get it though. Then how come Bobby Pacquiao isn't a world class fighter? Manny definitely has the money to buy him "the GOOD drugs." And assuming that Manny is on PEDs, why not give it to his brother as well? If it's so hard to catch PED users, why didn't Bobby just do it too and become a world class fighter?

 

Because PEDs dont make Bobby turned into Manny. thats why Bobby is not world class.

 

Lmao!

 

Vargus & SSM lost their bouts.

Is there any proof that PEDS have improved a boxer?

EPO might help a boxer improve stamina, HGH etc... might only help a HW.