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Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Mandanda, Feb 25, 2011.


  1. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    That genuinely means a lot coming from you 'Pete', cheers :good
     
  2. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    :lol:
     
  3. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Haven't got round to these yet :roll:

    @Bujia, you gonna' do Sumbu? That would be f'n **** hot, one of my favourite fighters.
     
  4. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    What are you laughing at? Where are your entires?

    I'd expect you to put in some of the best work here :bart
     
  5. Mandanda

    Mandanda SkillspayBills Full Member

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    :lol: Yeah i'm shocked a few lads haven't done posts, Thought they would of taken to it but must say i need something/someone to spark me into writing about them.
     
  6. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    If you can get enough material (no pun intended) that's a quality idea.

    :yep
     
  7. WalletInspector

    WalletInspector Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    GazOC on his favourite type of gloves...

     
  8. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    I guess no one really knew what they were watching at that point. Curry wouldn't really come to the fore as being special for another couple of years and Starling wouldn't really get his props until after he'd beaten Honeyghan a few years after that.

    Great one on Starling Flea. I know he's a pet study of yours.:good
     
  9. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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    :yep

    It was still quality(the pun), intended or not.:hey

    Might just look into Reyes now(no homo), I was only joking at first but I'd imagine I can pull it off, I'm sure Hitler felt the same about Lebensraum.
     
  10. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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  11. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Exactly that and thanks :good Moochy was a wiz'.

    :rofl
     
  12. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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    I've done minimal research in the last few hours, and there isn't exactly a plethora out there on Cleto, aside from the fact they'd appreciate your money of course.:yep

    I could feasibly do an entry on him/them, but just for a heads up, it's not going to be filled with content to the extent of the majority of other pieces here. That is if I were to do one of course.

    Trying to think of something else that's ''different'' here, but nothing comes to mind.



    You see, that post now sounds like I'm doing a disservice to him, I'm not good at this.:lol:

    What I mean is, and it is perhaps just me(in which case you lot can tell me to hush my gums), when you read that entry, the way I'm spaffing about his career - particularly in the closing paragraph(s) - I know when I've gotten carried away when I use quotes like that:lol: - sounds like I have him up there with like Pacquiao or some shizzle, when really I'm just acknowledging that:

    1. He was a damn good fighter who deserves credit for actually testing himself by moving up(and he really didn't have to considering just how diminutive he was) in weight.

    2. He's also ''great'' by default, due to fighting in said divisions, where talent pool is dwindled and quality fighters dominate to an even greater extent.



    And also, while I'm on a roll, what'sup with Duran only having one part? Seems a very picayune measure considering who it's based on. Then again I haven't even read it yet, so I'm probably making a sausage of myself.
     
  13. Flea Man

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    I ain't read it either, but he would require a 3 parter.

    -Youth to Lightweight
    -Welterweight to Hagler
    -Barkley to retirement
     
  14. SportsLeader

    SportsLeader Chilling Full Member

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    I like how it's become cool to have several different parts to an entry.

    I always got worried when I couldn't fit a piece (of my whopping 2 entries) into 1 post.
     
  15. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Peter "The Black Prince" Jackson

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    This man was, imo, the first great coloured fighter in heavyweight history. It was because of him the colour line was so famously drawn by John L Sullivan and again by the following champions. Outside the ring he carried himself like a model gentleman but inside the ring he was a force of nature





    Jackson was, even by todays standards, a natural heavyweight with one of the most devastating 1-2's in recorded history. He bested George Godfrey for the "Coloured Championship" and then went on a great winning streak that saw him unoffically declared the best HW on the planet for a period of about 4 years.

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    He fought the best of his time (bar the HW champ who refused to defend against him) and shared the ring with peers such as Lees (x2), Dooley, O’Donnell, Godfrey, McCauliffe, Cardiff, Maher, Smith, Goddard, Corbett and Slavin going unbeaten against them all going 10-0-2 (8 by way of knockout). He suffered his first defeat very early in his career after only a handful of fights and he wouldn't taste defeat again until he fought the late great James Jeffries, by this time, however, Jackson was on death's door and would often be seen using a cane to help him walk.





    His best opponents were arguably Godfrey and Corbett, the best fighters on either side of the colour line and he proved his greatness by destroying Godfrey and fighting to a 61 round draw against Corbett.



    After breaking his arm against Patsy Cardiff, Sullivan became increasingly more inactive and ineffective and it was during these years that Jackson was on his best run against the above named fighters. after beating Slavin, Jackson himself was aging and went inactive whilst his former foe, James Corbett, went to outlast Sullivan and knock him out over 21 rounds.





    We can never be certain how Jackson would have fared had he been granted his much deserved title shot, but one thing is clear, the man proved his greatness despite being shunned and now 123 years later he is being appreciated as he deserved.





    Without sounding too political, the IBOH themselves sum it up best with their opening statement about this great warrior





    "Racial prejudice was the only thing that kept Peter Jackson from his chance to win the world heavyweight crown"




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    Peter Jackson: a true champion of the people.



    http://www.ibhof.com/pages/about/inductees/oldtimer/jacksonpeter.html



    http://boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=Human:10543



    http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/boxing/jackson.htm



    http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/boxing/BookReview-PeterJackson-BobPetersen.htm



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