Looking back on Bute's illness pre-Andrade I...

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  1. Sean Juan

    Sean Juan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No it wasn't. The ref is not supposed to make that consideration either even if it was.
     
  2. Fightfan of Mtl

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    http://assets.ibf-usba-boxing.com/File/IBF-USBABoutRules.pdf

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    From the Bouts Rules of the IBF, Bute's belt...Knockouts and knockdowns, if you geniuses, who knows so much, care to read...

    Enough said, bring Johnson and Froch and Ward...:deal
     
  3. Sean Juan

    Sean Juan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The rule you sited proves Bute LOST.

    Again, the ref doesn't take time into consideration, you have to be ready to continue when you stand, you don't just have to make it to your feet.
     
  4. Sean Juan

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    Hilarious. :tong
     
  5. laffie

    laffie Montreal Full Member

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    There was 3 seconds to go in the fight when Bute was knocked down. Maximum 4. I guess all your nice theories go down the drain.

    Post me your video, Einstein. You write a lot of things off your head but you have nothing to support them.
     
  6. drozzy

    drozzy AERE Full Member

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    Jeff, Sean, go ahead and counter argue this one. Don't leave it unanswered, it's from ESB's staff. :lol:
     
  7. Fightfan of Mtl

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    Sorry man was writting my post when yours was aleready on here..
     
  8. laffie

    laffie Montreal Full Member

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    You don't have to be able to continue after the 12th round. At the end of all the other rounds, yes, but not the 12th. Why? Because you cannot be hit anymore, the fight is over.
     
  9. jeffjoiner

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    Re-watched the video, there was 4 not 14.

    He still wasn't up under his own power, though. Should have been considered down and counted out.
     
  10. Sean Juan

    Sean Juan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    eh, Shobox is starting, I'll read it later.
     
  11. laffie

    laffie Montreal Full Member

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    You won't. You're too lazy for that. If it was not the case, you would have stopped writing and started reading from the beginning of the post. You didn't.
     
  12. laffie

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    You're wrong again. Read the rule # 6.
     
  13. Sean Juan

    Sean Juan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So what does the term "saved by the bell" mean to you? Sound slike you're stating that Bute was saved by the bell when the rules clearly state that he cannot be.

    The ref never asked Bute to walk to him. As Jeff pointed out, he was leaning on the ropes to stand. KO.

    Again, I like Bute. But Andrade got raped there.
     
  14. jeffjoiner

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    So you're saying rising = laying on the ropes. If the ropes are the only thing holding you up, you are considered down. Many fighters have been stopped while laying against the ropes unable to stand.


    It was a bull**** ending to an otherwise non-descript fight. I give Bute credit for doing the right thing and giving Bute a rematch.
     
  15. MJK

    MJK Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Other thing, since I could not upload the picture... I decide to put it as my avatar for some time so you can see.

    4. When a contestant has been knocked down, the referee will order the standing contestant
    to the farthest neutral corner and begin the count. If the contestant standing leaves the
    corner before the count has been completed, the referee shall discontinue the count and
    order the standing contestant back into the corner. The count will not resume until the
    standing contestant has returned to the neutral corner.

    Andrade was in the middle of the ring as you can see on the picture