Jack Johnson vs. Jeffries in 1905

This is not only irrelevant to the argument it is illegible

You've told me thins?:huh
I asked you to post ringside news reports that back up your contention that Jeffries did well until his strength faded in the latter rounds.You have not done so.

I asked you to post primary sources that show Burns had jaundice and asked for a postponement you have not done so . I know Delaney had a split from Jeffries,and I know why ,which is more than you do. It has .NOTHING TO DO WITH JEFFRIES PERFORMANCE AGAINST JOHNSON.

 

Try and read things slowly, then digest them, before making a complete twat of yourself. I said at Reno, Jeannette was not at Reno, dick head. At Reno ,it was Armstrong, and Langford that picked Jeffries not Jeannette,Langford and McVey , you really do have learning disabilities don't you?

Rickard picked Jeffries to win too. SO ****ING WHAT? DID HE WIN? NO HE DID NOT.
DID HE EVER AT ANY TIME IN THE FIGHT, LOOK LIKE HE MIGHT WIN? NO HE DID NOT.
DID HE DO MORE THAN WIN ONE OR TWO ROUNDS AT MOST ? NO HE DID NOT.
WHO PICKED JEFFRIES TO WIN MEANS EXACTLY JACK **** ,BECAUSE HE DID NOT WIN DID HE?atsch

 

Which is it ,Jeffreries, Jerreffies, Jefferies, or Jeffries?

 

When you gave your opinion of the Hart /Johnson fight it was totally at odds with the ringside reports , which stated that Johnson won the first half of the fight handily.

So, maybe it is not good tactics for you to mention this fight again?

My opinion, gleaned only from first hand accounts, is that it was a closely contested fight that could probably have been interpreted in favour of either man.
It is also my opinion that the Johnson that fought Hart was not prime ,either in physical maturity, or experience. Photographic evidence supports my view, imo.
You have been pretty sarcastic in your replies, which I do not mind, because in all honesty , crossing swords with you verbally holds no fears for me.
Your arguments have been particularly weak and ,you have resorted to a third party to answer for you.
I have answered his contributions , with the respect they merit.
Though I tell you candidly, I do not believe them.
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Can I now articulate to you in words that you will be able to comprehend? That is my problem.

I do not suggest that Johnson had super human strength .

I do not accept that Jeffries had superhuman strength.

I entertain the possibility that there was little to choose between them as far as strength goes.

I suggest that this might explain why Jeffries ,in the early rounds of their fight and ,whilst he was fresh, was patently unable to manhandle Johnson or be the master of him in the clinches.

The facts are that Jeffries held an average of 34lbs weight advantage over his title challengers, yet we have no ringside accounts of him manhandling these men.
Now , you can continue in your sarky way ,or you can promulgate a cogent ,and reasoned argument that stands up to scrutiny and debate and reinforces your opinions.

 

At 5 foot 8 inches and 180lbs Sharkey,[it is Sharkey,not Shareky] WAS a small child.

 

(To McVey)

I am not attacking you so put your Mendoza voice aside.

Your revisionism of the Hart fight is incorrect. Read the coverge from Adam's book ... round by round it was a competitive fight. You cannot change the documented accounts and you cannot excuse the fact that a prime Johnson could not dispose of Marvin Hart in his most important fight. I can't either and while like u I am a Johnson fan unlike you I am not a Johnson fanatic and admit his limitations. I know you seem to have little better to do than go round and round on this topic but I am much younger, quite busy and have to pick my spots. I have been showing you respect and would like the same in return.

 

Well he was much bigger than the 168 pound Choynski who flattened Johnson or the 160 pound Ketchel who dropped him on his ass and the 172 pound Smith that rocked his world in sparring.

 

I have scanned the picture and have it on my screen now. The picture is not verry clear, but Jeffries apears to be holding a medcine ball in each hand level with his shoulders. Ryan is ballanced on one of the balls and Jack Jeffries is bballanced on the other.

 

Try uploading it on the internet.

http://tinypic.com/
http://imageshack.us/

 

I talk to Mendoza like I would address a piece of **** because that is my opinion of him.

How I talk to you depends on how you choose to converse with me.

To paraphrase that inimitable cop/prisoner line" you can have it easy or hard,it's up to you".

I said it was a closely contested fight that could be interpreted either way, if you now wish to call it a competitive fight, which is essentially the same thing ,why should I object?

I don't accept Johnson was prime when he fought Hart.

You must do with your leisure time what you wish ,for my part I have been out hunting rabbits all day, this is just recreation for me. I will shortly be joining my lady in front of the TV for a few glasses of red wine,

I can pick my spots because I have the financial werewhithal to do so.

I recommend it!

H .E .I have no animosity towards you , but all I have seen from you in your last few posts is, " Adam says". If I wanted his opinion ,I would debate with him.
Where is your opinion?

 

Here is the picture I spoke of, thanks to Great A for showing me how to upload it.

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1. Glad your having fun with your lady, I'm doing the same.
2. Quite comfortable myself. It;s the kids that are exhausting.
3. I use Adam as a reference because I feel his work is the ultimate reference on this territoty. Detailed first hand accounts. Out of all the research I've done I find his to be the best of the best. And by Adam's you can look in his bibliography for all footnotes. Since your accounts are not first hand personal either, who do you use to base your opinions ?

 

Is this real or doctored ? It looks dicey ..