Who is the higher ATG: Mayweather or DelaHoya?

PBF by far. At the highest levels ODLH was found wanting both as regards accomplishments and performance level. The only thing Oscar is better than PBF at is dressing up as a woman as far as I can tell.

 

Why in the hell would you be on a boxing message board if you have to be told why Vargas is an elite fighter? If you don't already know, you should be reading back issues of Ring magazine or something instead of posting here.

 

Oscar similar talent level to Floyd, much MUCH bigger balls and better opponents. ODLH all day.

 

De La Hoya lost a shitload of his BIG fights so im going with Maynever on this one

 

You obviously don't like PBF which is your prerogative however to say their talent level is similar is wrong. ODLH is talented but no where on the same level as PBF that is pain obvious skills wise and does not require debate. ODLH did not display big balls by avoiding the great Azumah Nelson at Junior Lightweight, running for his life like a woman against Felix Trinidad in the championship rounds and quitting against Bernard Hopkins and Manny Pacquiao. The difference between them apart from skill, is ODLH runs out of gas, gets tired, we know you can make him quit and there are at least 5 or6 ways to beat him. Vargas may not be as talented as ODLH but he definitely had more balls. Ask the great Felix Tito Trinidad.

 

He beat Vargas, he beat Quartey, beat Whitaker, beat JCC, got robbed v. Mosley and Trinidad. You really have to be a total ****ing moron to be repeating this lame ****.

 

Put Mayweather up against guys like Trinidad, Quartey, Whitaker and a prime Mosley etc, then let's see. ODLH didn't have gas problems until he got old.

One thing I've noticed about ODLH haters, MAB haters, that kind of guy... they rarely know anything about boxing, they just repeat **** that didn't make sense the first time someone said it.

 

There are somethings that people don't know. I didn't know why Vargas is considered an A fighter. I don't know everything about boxing but I know alot. Excuse my ignorance.

 

So you consider Hatton, Corrales, Castillo, or Ortiz A fighters that were prime??

 

Good. Yea I def consider Tito an A fighter. When Floyd fought Chico and Castillo they were considered A fighters also.

 

Yea except for Ortiz. Chico was a top P4P fighter and ranked number one in the division. Some people consider Castillo the best lightweight of the decade. Hatton was a P4P fighter and lineal champ.

 

Ah idk... I loved them so I want to agree but the most I can give them is B+. Big wins against each other, Casamayor and the Brazilian Frietas does not make A fighters.

 

I can't give Hatton A fighter status either. Besides an older KZu who else did he beat? B fighter.

 

I based it on the fact that they were both P4P fighters. There were alot of people that thought Floyd would lose. Chico was a KO artist, top 5 P4P, and number 1 in the division. Castillo is arguably considered the best lightweight of the decade. He was a KO artist as well.

Also who is that in your avatar?