chime-in on punching power

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  1. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Posted this on another thread, but think it's worth discussion here:

    Gonna open a cana worms, and definitely rain on some parades. Been around the game as fighter 'n trainer since the Stone Age. Lived in Stillman’s. Got tips from Robinson and Pep and had a stellar amateur team that won scads of Golden Gloves titles.

    Power’s the Holy Grail. Every amateur ‘n pro seeks it, just as baseball players wanna be home run hitters.

    But my experience is – tough as it may be ta swallow: Nobody punches harder or faster than the first day he came in the gym – Will-o-the-wisps or Graziano beasts.

    Over the years, they get more efficient, more relaxed, throw combos ‘n land with more accuracy, but an ERASER ‘n an up-tick in hand speed, never.

    Guys have done damn well maximizing what they’ve got, but unless you’re Julian Jackson or Pep, all the king’s horses, muscles ‘n physics charts won’t help.

    It won't stop amateurs 'n pros wanting to be the exception. More power to 'em.
     
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  2. Stiltskin

    Stiltskin Well-Known Member Full Member

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    hmm im a bit drunk are you seem to be saying that no one punches harder than when there at the beginning or punchers are born not made? im a bit confused technique and learning how to put your body weight into punches makes you hit a great deal harder...
     
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  3. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yup, that's exactly what I'm sayin', S. Look at the rest of it: improvements that make a guy more affective, but NOT faster-handed or harder hitting.
     
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  4. Scott-Robson

    Scott-Robson Active Member Full Member

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    I agree if you mean that you can't really improve power through weights and stuff like that..Like your power is natural, however I also think that with correct form and technique the power of your punches will improve
     
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  5. Boxing Fanatic

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    look at pacman. he wasnt knocking people out early in his career. as his weight went up so did his power.
     
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  6. itsa huge bitch

    itsa huge bitch Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    power alone is overated..acurracy is the key
     
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  7. TerryESB

    TerryESB The Final Boss Full Member

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    The Worlds strongest man fought in a UFC fight. So, I asked why isnt he the worlds strongest puncher? Which I think is a legit question. I was laughed at.

    Why wouldnt somone who is 300 lbs all muscle World strongest man not hit no where near as hard than somone who is 210 lbs like David Haye?
     
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  8. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    hey john in all your years of training how long would you say it takes the average fighter before he can develop his technique where he reaches the max fluidity possible?
     
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  9. Boxing Fanatic

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    technique i believe has a lot to do with it. look at ray edwards, hes a monster but his power looks overrated
     
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  10. bremen

    bremen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's because they learn that technique and precision are more important than raw power.
     
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  11. Sp_Immortal

    Sp_Immortal Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Nobody ever hit a baseball harder than in their first day of practice.
     
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  12. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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  13. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    Shall I be the one to throw Hearns into the debate so that technique can be discussed and its influence and the power of punches?
     
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  14. Sp_Immortal

    Sp_Immortal Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It reminds me of the day when I picked up tennis for the first time at the ripe old age of 33.

    I never hit a ball harder than I did that day, I never served faster than I did when I lobbed that first pathetic serve over the net. My mechanics and power never improved at all.

    lol wait it was nothing like that at all.
     
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  15. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's every amateur's hope, SC, but usually it's more opportune 'n follow-up shots that do the damage.
     
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