chime-in on punching power

So John, you know 100 metre runners....

When they run 100 metres, do they never get quicker than their first run?

 

yeah this is where I'm trying to get at also.
You can't turn Paulie into Hearns, but there was a day when Paulie was punching even softer than he is now

 

Anybody ever had someone come into the gym and they punched all wrong? but they still had unusual power in those awfull punches?

Why is this??:think

 

Consider also, that a year or two after the first day in the gym, you've put on muscle dedicated to the motions of punching and moving. Not to mention the body mechanics and weight distribution. Those alone equal more power and increased handspeed (at least in regard to stroke distance).

You can indeed develop handspeed and power. I agree that some people are born with natural power and some don't. I think alot of that has to do with the belief or trust in the punch they throw.

Also, the first day I went to the gym, I didn't want to show off and hit the bags as hard and fast as I could; I didn't want to seem like I was showing off and get my ass whipped when it was time for me to spar... I could already hit the speed bag and double end bags as well as anyone in the gym.

 

I agree and that's pretty much the point I was trying to make im thinking John meant that no matter what you do you cant turn Malignaggi into Arguello or Spinks into Tyson sort of deal which is true you can improve on power greatly through boxing knowledge teaching etc. but you can't make them a natural born puncher.I think that's what he means to say anyhow.

 

not quicker handed sure but not harder hitting? I will not harass a 75 year old but do you truly not believe technique and learning to put your bodyweight into punches wont make you hit harder than when you started? because I cant agree with that.

 

In my opinion a powerfull punch has a lot to do with leverage and accuracy!
By accuracy I mean that a strike does not have an equal amount of power throughout the whole range of motion. There's a sweet spot where the impact will be greatest. By leverage I mean using a motion where no movement is wasted and the whole body mechanics work together to produce a natural powerfull strike.
Combine these two and you will have a strike/punch with greater power and impact. So, yes, one can definitely learn how to punch harder.
But, also, yes, some people can naturally hit harder or faster than other people, regardless of whether or not they've been training. But saying these are qualities that cannot be improved on, is ridiculous in my opinion.

 

So how can humans improve their foot speed, but not their hand speed? :huh

 

The true sign of stupidity is not in being wrong... it's in the refusal to acknowledge being wrong. This guy is ignorant in the matters of sports sciences, and human performance.