chime-in on punching power

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by john garfield, Oct 31, 2011.


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  1. onourway

    onourway Haye KTFO1 Wlad Full Member

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    So to summarise....

    Your thoughts>>>logic and facts.

    I'm out.
     
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  2. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What you remind of is in the pre-fight buildup for a Robinson fight, his opponent scored higher hitting a machine. Ray's reply was: "He beat the machine. Let's see what he can do with me"
     
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  3. conditioner101

    conditioner101 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    case in point righ there. Jonathan Morales. 5'9 114lbs. Skin n bones, but can punch a ton. he hit this kid in the forehead.., not the chin, and he still went down.
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vd17qbXcnwk[/ame]
     
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  4. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If logic 'n facts won fights, we wouldn't have to stage' em, o
     
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  5. conditioner101

    conditioner101 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Another totally nonsensical response from you that does nothing to substantiate your theory, nor disprove me.
     
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  6. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It isn't theory, c; it's over 60 years in the game.
     
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  7. conditioner101

    conditioner101 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    60 yrs in the game doing what? How many national amateur champions have you developed? How many champions have you developed? How many champions have you worked with? How many contenders have you worked with? I have been involved in boxing as a manager/trainer/strength and conditioning coach for 12 yrs. Developed one national amateur champion who was also ranked #1 in the country. Developed one fighter from his start as an amateur to a world champion. Worked with a two time heavyweight champion for 7 fights. As well as several contenders.
     
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  8. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Is this a dick measuring contest, c?. If I had better creds than yours, would that win the day? Ya sound like Peanuts:"My father can hang curtains faster than yours.

    If whatya do works for ya, God speed.
     
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  9. stormy

    stormy Live and Learn Full Member

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    From what ive been told by other ESB posters is basically that the other guy had a glass forehead..... other than that, what was the main point you were making with this post please C.
     
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  10. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That was my first thought, too, s
     
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  11. conditioner101

    conditioner101 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    YOU used your "60 yrs. in the game" as a basis to substantiate your statements. I simply asked what you accomplished in those 60 yrs. given the fact that you cited it to back up your statements.
     
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  12. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    I THINK what he's trying to say is, you can technically punch harder over time because of balance, flexibility, fluidity and technique, but that you can't generate any more power. I still disagree with it fully, but I think that's where he's coming from
     
    bballchump11, Oct 31, 2011
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  13. conditioner101

    conditioner101 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The point was here is a skinny kid that most would not look at as a puncher based on physical appearance. That's real classy to insult a kid. Well done.
     
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  14. conditioner101

    conditioner101 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I understand that true punchers are born. Same as someone who can run fast, jump high, or throw a baseball fast. But, to say that punching power can not be increased is absolutely wrong.
     
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  15. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    I'm on your side, don't worry
     
    bballchump11, Oct 31, 2011
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