chime-in on punching power

Come on John, you saying your experience beats all our socalled "theories" and then getting irky when C picks up on that?

Sports and science and everything (inter)related to it, hasn't stood still in 60 years, just like any other area. We're no longer feeding an athlete steak and whole milk all day long, are we? So question logic & facts all you want with an argument like "I have 60 years xp", but accept then that there are other people on this forum who know a thing or two about boxing and sports in general aswell.

 

Seems he isn't saying what I thought he was at all.

I just think you are born with a ceiling on your power and speed and it's up to you to get as close to that ceiling using whatever methods you can.

 

No no... I wasn't arguing with you. Just surprises me that this guy is so narrow minded. Simple illustration of what I was trying to point out is as follows... a baseball player goes up to hit. he grabs a few bats and swings them before he goes up to bat. Right there by that simple act he has momentarily increased neurological recruitment, and efficiency. Which leaders to a harder swing.

 

its like baseball. u hit a ball farther and swing the bat faster when u lift weights and take peds. boxing it is the same thing. a guy who picks up a bat for the 1st time and swings it doesnt swing as hard as a guy who has been swinging a bat almost whole life like a pro ball player. practice makes perfect

 

Very very well said. Thats what training is all about. Developing yourself to the very limit of your own personal ability. Basically what this guy is saying is that you can get bigger, faster, and stronger. But, somehow boxing is different then every other sport in that those improvements don't lend themselves to improved performance of the movements required in boxing.

 

good point. If what he's saying is true, then steroids and PED wouldn't help your power

 

I don't doubt that at all. What I know with absolute certainty is that had Lew Jenkins trained properly he would have been able to increase his natural attributes even further.

 

Hey settle down i was joking about the glass jaw thing C...but ESB is sure about these things you know:hey

I was a skiiny guy with little to no muscle. I could bang above my weight too. I just put it down to speed and leverage, and raw power:think

I dont think John mentioned body type,so i still want to know where the skinny kid breaking a glass forehead fits into the discussion that is all, C.:rasta

 

i see where u r coming from john. ive seen prospects have their 1st fight and try to get a ko and keep trying in another fight and keep failing. they learn technique and everything, and still nothing. so, u have a solid point. u either have it or u dont.

 

See where he says "Nobody punches harder or faster than the first day he came in the gym." Anyone that believes that might as well go bury there head in sand.

 

you would of put weight on him?:rastaI think knocking people out doesnt need too much improvement really.

Strangely enough I see both sides of the coin, and am convinced that both J and C are 100% correct. End thread :yep:rofl