Johnson V Langford in 1909 ?

Would be an interesting matchup.

 

But this is not inconsistent with what McIntosh said, is it. With all this carry on about breach of the Peace, McIntosh launched his stinging crusade against the fight, which would have brought more bad publicity and had the press having a field day. With boxing's own establishment against the fight it is further ammunition to call off the fight. And as you said Langford v Lang was not a breach of the Peace. This actually makes more sense now. That is why Jimmy White offered to pay McIntosh to support the fight publicly and support Wells, because it would have put pressure on keeping the fight on.

either way, it was a pretty ordinary trick by McIntosh to get involved at all, if he wasnt going to help and i can see why Johnson would pull out of a deal with him, after this.

 

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&d=NZTR19170623.2.66.8

This article has lots of really interesting tidbits, but it seems from the comments here, it is possible that World War I costed us Langford vs Johnson II as it was Langford who didnt want to fight Johnson. They were both past their best by this time, but it might have still been very interesting at this point.

 

it seems according to this article that there was a Johnson Langford streetfight in 1910!

Some interesting comments rgarding Jeffries and Johnsons yellow streak also, that should get the board ticking over through the night.

 

http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/l...ck&y=17&x=10&dateFilterType=yearRange&index=5

Sorry, that was harder to find than I thought.

Not really a street fight, so much as a scuffle, but interesting none the less.

 

I thought you might like that one

 

I'm honestly REALLY unclear on how anybody who give Langford a good shot at beating a PRIME Johnson. I can see why some would for lets say the years 1911 - losing to Jess. Cool I can see why, I disagree, but can see why. How on earth though, would sam beat a prime Jack, when Jack had already EASILY dominated him when they did fight. People want to point out that Sam wasn't at his peak weak.. problem is.. neither was Jack. People want to point out that Johnson had more experience, when in fact, Langford had more fights at the point they met. The facts are these.. neither one of them was at their supposed prime weight and when they met, jackson beat him with ease. Now I'm suppose to believe a prime Johnson at his ideal weight with more experience somehow losses because Sam gained a few pounds... Nah, I won't buy that for a dollar or even a penny.

 

In 09 I favor Johnson but it would be a classic.

 

In 1909 Johnson was exposed in the following fights;

1 ) Johnson was Tko'd by Smith in a 4 round ex match.

2 ) He drew with O’Brien. O'brien had little trouble landing on Johnson. So much for his vaunted defense.

3 ) He was floored by a Ketchel who really wasn’t much of a boxer at all.

This is a suspect year for a champion, and one where he was exposed THREE TIMES.

Langford would win here, likely via stoppage.