If Dempsey was as good a fighter as Ali...

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  1. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Holmes rematch ?
    And I didn't mean d last part of his career as a true treatment 2 a real medical problem . I did find that testosterone external intake is legal in sports as long as it does not raise d levels 2 beyond normal .
     
  2. Pachilles

    Pachilles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The way in which frankenfrank constructs his posts and opinions makes him sound like a troll...who is trying to convince himself, to allow himself, to troll himself
     
  3. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    I meant Holmes match, not rematch. Fixed.

    If you didn't mean the last part of his career, then when are you saying that he was taking steroids?
     
  4. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Earlier of course . Prior 2 Leon Spinks
     
  5. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Obviously earlier, but how much earlier?

    Just before Spinks II? Norton II? Norton I?? Frazier I?? Liston?! Cooper?!? The Olympics?!?!?!11

    Can you pin it down a bit more precisely?
     
  6. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I meant b4 Spinks #1 of course .
     
  7. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Yeah, kinda figured. In that case, I don't see how Ali's steroid use (?) affects his greatness much either way. He'd already finished 95% of his career by that time.
     
  8. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The answer is no. If tunney could do what he did to Dempsey (even past his best) Ali would do even better and with more power. Ali by TKO Round 7 or 8
     
  9. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I just don't know how much b4 Spinks #1 which can make it 95% of his career were effected by it .
    Not that I knock any1 because of juicing , but others do .
     
  10. Vockerman

    Vockerman LightJunior SuperFlyweigt Full Member

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    And if a shot Dempsey has Ali on the seat of his pants for 14+ seconds DURING the seventh round what will you make of that?
     
  11. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As Tunney stated many times.. He couldn't gotten up by the count of 10.. whether he would've survived is another matter. He did exactly what he should've and watched the Ref and got up ONLY when he needed to by the count.
     
  12. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dempsey KO7 Tunney:deal
     
  13. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Fair enough, I guess. Although, I actually have trouble envisioning Dempsey of the 1920's destroying the 1960's, considering he didn't dominant everyone in his own era (Nor tested his mettle against the absolute elite).
     
  14. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    A good tool here, even if a bit simplistic. People are basically making analogous stylistic descriptions of Tunney-Dempsey and replacing Ali. What they're forgetting is that Tunney didn't beat Dempsey because of style... he beat Dempsey because he was actually better. Same goes for Ali.
     
  15. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    All par for the course. This particular gentleman actually had the nerve to call me slightly ******ed :lol: I suspect that irony does n't exist within his spectrum.