--- Rating 'Sugar' Shane Mosley (prime) ---

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  1. KO-KING

    KO-KING Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    My ratings

    Technical Ability - 7, He has a excellent technique in his power punches especially his over hand right - His Dad put it as 'Power Boxing' and that pretty much says it all for his style.

    Defence - 7, he was never known for a defencive expert. But for an aggressive fighter who likes throwing power punches he didn't get hit alot, in my opinion is one of those fighters that use his Offence as a defence.

    Offence
    - 9.5, I think he was one of the best offensive fighters at his best, he had great power and fast hands also a great finisher. Offensively he was near complete.

    Footwork - 7, He has good general movement, he is able to close down his opponent when he wants to finish things off.

    Accuracy - 7, He has good accuracy but not great. He has very accurate combinations that could be deadly for an opponent.

    Power - 9, He has great power - coming from 135 he carried his power well to 147, he has great power in his combination and in single punches aswell. His fight vs Margarito showed his power - he KOed a Granite chin fighter in Margarito

    Speed - 8, he has excellent speed. He can throw fast combinations as well as quick jabs and right hands.

    Versatility - 8, He is able to both Box and Slug it out and he does it easily. He also fights on the inside and on the outside.

    Stamina - 9, He was able to throw fast power punchers for the full 12 rounds without seeming to tire.

    Heart - 9.5, in his prime he would trade it out with the best of them, never could imagine mosley quiting and vs Pacquiao I was Shocked - but he was way past his prime in that fight.

    Chin - 10, Truly great chin, proven many times down twice against forrest and once recently against pac but he took big punches from the best of them.

    Physical Attributes - 7, Depends on which weight you look at 135 or 147. at 135 he would probably be an 8. He was never a fighter who used his natural physical advantages (147) if he had any in a fight.

    Overall - 8.5

    Some attributes are missing though such as Cut/Swelling resistance and Corner ect...

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  2. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    him getting caught with roids takes a lot away from his legacy imo otherwise I agree with the rating.
     
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  3. killjoy408

    killjoy408 Active Member Full Member

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    I cosign.

    But his ODLH fight was pretty epic thoe.
     
  4. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Technical Ability - 5 (average)

    Defence - 5 (average)

    Offence - 8 (strong brawling skills, very good power, top notch hand speed, but lacking in refinement)

    Footwork - 5 (average)

    Accuracy - 6 (solid accuracy, but nothing outstanding)

    Power - 8 (very good puncher)

    Speed - 8 (excellent handspeed, but lacking by comparison in other areas such as defensive reflexes, footspeed, etc.)

    Versatility - 6 (very good plan A, poor plan B)

    Stamina - 8 (very solid in his prime)

    Heart - 7.5 (he's always been the type to choke if the opponent was not to his liking, it's just become more pronounced in recent years, he gets the extra half-point for faring well in rematches with the likes of Forrest and Wright, though)

    Chin - 9.5 (iron chin, no doubt about it)

    Physical Attributes - 9.5 at Lightweight (and :rofl at you claiming he never used his physical attributes to his advantage)

    Overall - 7.5 (in the grand scheme of things, which is what I'm judging by comparison to, that's a good score)
     
  5. KO-KING

    KO-KING Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    El Bujia

    'Physical Attributes - 9.5 at Lightweight (and :rofl at you claiming he never used his physical attributes to his advantage)'


    I meant at WW, should have probably made it clearer. Isn't 6 more the General 'average/Decent' rating
     
  6. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    5 or 6, yeah. I guess if you want to get down to it 5.5 would be the definitive "average" rating. Rounds up to 6, so yeah, I've no issue with that.
     
  7. kopejh

    kopejh Guest

    Mosley was pretty impressive physically at WW imo, especially in the early years. he retained his hand speed.
     
  8. KO-KING

    KO-KING Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    More than a 7?
     
  9. W1LLPARK3R

    W1LLPARK3R Well-Known Member Full Member

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    great physical talent, but an underachiever. Lost bk to bk fights aginst boxers he was arguably more talented than..
     
  10. KO-KING

    KO-KING Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Styles make fights. Vernon had his number in my opinion, Winky was just a H2H great
     
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  11. kopejh

    kopejh Guest

    7 sounds right. at LW he was a pretty imposing fighter in the ring. he lost that at WW.
     
  12. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Fair rating. He gets a bit underrated as of late. Fickle fans.
     
  13. KO-KING

    KO-KING Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    there the sort that jump on or off a fighters bandwagon over a single fight
     
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  15. LancsTerrible

    LancsTerrible Different Forms of Game. Full Member

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    As one of the boards premier prime Shane Mosley fans I'd agree with this for the most part. I might give him slightly more as far as Technical Skill goes being a fan of his combination punching, body punching and his punch variety in his prime (before he became pawing jab and overhand right dependent).

    I do think when you look at the very fair score El Bujia gave him on defence, technical skills, versatility etc. You can kind of see why he made them secondary to his physical abilities which for worse, he fell in love and became way to dependent on.

    If this was around in the late 80's/early 90's the rather prevalent attitude of "only as good as your last performance" would see Ray Leonard as a glass jawed joke who would be lucky to be ranked above Terry Norris in the grand scheme of boxing history.