Michael Nunn

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Addie, Nov 2, 2011.


  1. salty trunks

    salty trunks Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Nunn was a very good fighter. Good combination punching fighter. Slapped a bit with his punches and didnt get ultimate leverage and was a little underpowered but a solid technician inside and out.
     
  2. Vantage_West

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    well him and king flew over to britain so they could pick the winner of the eubank-benn match. all seemed to have a gentlemans agreement that we'll get this division unified.

    king was happy. if benn won, benn is managed by him so thats good if he wins because he can fight nunn and the winner of that is unified undisputed. and if eubank had to signa a subcontract for eubanks to fight benn. either way he has got it.
    so you had king and michael among the commentators having interviews saying who will win. king laughing and talking about the odds.....with john mcririck :blood(these 2 guys meeting is arguably the penultimate of eccentricity).

    so everything set. benn and eubank set off on the wbc wbo unification match and the biggest domestic match outside possibly lewis-bruno. and the winner fight nunn and unifies the division




    .....and it's a draw:lol: the look on kings face is priceless, nunn gets interviewed by jim rosenthall saying "who do you think won" responded with "oh,oh it's a great fight" then being dragged off by some of the king entourage. then theres king and michael in the post fight room analysing the match. king looking dejected nunn looking out of place.

    but whatever them 2 might fight a rematch, and michael needs a fight. we'll fight somebody in th euk to keep the hype up. why not this steve littles charecter...


    i think benn and eubank would of got to him. nunn wasnt focused enough around this point, he dropped his hands and seemed to trust his toughness to take punches in his later career. benn was argueably harder to hit than eubank around this time. his shoulder roll counter and his side movement was better and more reformed than his former guns blazing self.
     
  3. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Debatable. He looked pretty limited against Nunn.
     
  4. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's because he was facing a peak Nunn. I guarantee you Pavlik would've looked even worse.
     
  5. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    Yeah Tate was sort of like a better, more technically talented version of Taylor.

    Like Taylor he didn't quite seem to know what kind of fighter he wanted to be though,and also like Taylor he never looked like a smart thinking man's fighter in there.Just used his tools robotically.

    Nunn's unorthodox intuitive style combined with his talent just totally befuddled him.You would need to watch his fights beforehand to get a better measure of him.Against a faded Sibson and the then massively overhyped Olajide especially.he looked good enough in that one that many were rating above the likes of McCallum...though obviously wrongly in hindsight.
     
  6. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Addie..... Tate didnt win one SECOND of the Nunn fight, nevermind a round. You REALLY need to rewatch that fight. It was a complete and utter blow out.

    And Tate wasnt a bad fighter at all. I'd say he was a technically better version of Jermain Taylor.
     
  7. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    I saw it differently, X. Perhaps my expectations were too high.

    El, I don't rate Pavlik at all. Taylor though, he was good at one time.
     
  8. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah, I don't see how your expectations could be any higher. Nunn looked like a superstar against Tate.

    For two years, Nunn was considered #3 on the P4P list behind Tyson, and Chavez. And it wasnt for no reason.

    And how do you not think highly on Pavlik, yet value Taylor?

    In any case....... Nunn would have beaten both Pav and Taylor VERY easily.
     
  9. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Okay.
    This may have been true, but Nunn's level significantly dropped after the Kalambay destruction. Guys like Curry and Barkley were giving him fits.

    I think Taylor had more dimensions to his game when he was at his best. Even looking back at their first fight, that could quite have easily ended in the second round. Pavlik deserves credit for scoring the knockout and winning the return bout, but his limitations were shown against Hopkins and Martinez. Taylor of 04-06 was better equipped to take on a more wide range of styles than Pavlik ever was. I could see that version of Taylor being competitive with a prime Nunn, whereas Pavlik gets made to look a fool.
     
  10. Xplosive

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    Watch Taylor STRUGGLE and barely beat Cory Spinks, then tell me he'd be competitive with a prime Nunn.

    Nunn would beat the crap outta Taylor, just as he did Tate.
     
  11. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    I could just as easily say "watch Nunn STRUGGLE and barely beat Iran Barkley, then tell me he'd dominate Jermain Taylor."

    Taylor of 05 would give Nunn of '88 a very good fight, in my opinion.
     
  12. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    Barkley was definitely a better fighter then Taylor. Better chin, more power, better body punching, etc.
     
  13. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Was Donald Curry a better Middleweight than Jermain Taylor too? Why is it so hard to believe that a Jermain Taylor could be competitive with a Michael Nunn considering blown-up versions of Curry and Starling managed it? Nunn wasn't particuarly great at initiating the attacks, he was better served countering his opponent's mistakes. Taylor wouldn't present too many opportunities.
     
  14. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You see the same Nunn in the Barkley, Starling, and Curry fights as you saw in the 3 preceding fights with Kalambay, Roldan, and Tate? He looked like a million bucks in the former 3, the end being right around the time he started to dabble in the nose-candy, and as a result right around the time his career started to do a nose-dive. He looked completely lethargic by comparison in the latter 3 fights.

    Actually, he looked a lot better against Toney before getting caught than he did in either of the previous 3 fights. You say he wasn't up to much when initiating the action, but I thought he looked very good in doing so against Toney, even getting the better of the in-fighting for long stretches.

    All in all, he was just another example of a fighter who blew it based on his out of the ring choices. For a short period he was an exceptional talent, though.
     
  15. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    The posts I have been addressing so far have been condemning Taylor for his performances against the likes of Cory Spinks. Did you see the same Taylor in the Cory fight as you saw in the Hopkins fights? I didn't. We should take the best versions of each fighter, and I maintain that Taylor would not be brushed aside easily.

    I actually agree with this, but I think if you go back and look at his fights with Roldan and Tate, Nunn seemed a bit predictable on the offensive. It was when he was reacting to his opponents that he got his best work done. As I mentioned earlier, his jab didn't really seem to be used as a weapon. He wasn't hurting his opponent or using it to set up combinations, so instead of jabbing his way in, Nunn would lunge with shots out of range and actually miss fairly often. The Roldan performance wasn't actually that great. He made hard work of Roldan, who should have been made to order for Nunn.

    Indeed. I'm not making an argument for a Taylor win, I just don't think Nunn ever proved himself to be levels above that type of fighter. Likewise, I think Taylor would present stylistic problems. Nunn might win, but he wouldn't look good. Taylor wasn't the sort of fighter to go looking for his opponent like Tate was. Tate got very frustrated and started winging shots. It's no wonder he got countered silly. When Tate actually began to settle down a little after the first couple of rounds, Nunn stopped having it all his own way. At least that's how I saw things.