whitaker vs

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  1. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    whitaker vs napoles


    i think whitaker win by ud over 12 or 15 rounds
     
  2. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    I don't think there's much in it at all though at their best i just don't think Whittaker's style is the one that is outright bad for Napoles. Though i believe Whitaker is that good he could win anyway, but the same can be said of Napoles. I'm picking Napoles here, his judgement of distance and ability to slip in many different angles and ways together with his offensive arsenal of the highest order take an ultra close decision inmy opinion. But there may be nothing in it either way.
     
  3. Holmes' Jab

    Holmes' Jab Master Jabber Full Member

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    I hold Napoles in extremely high regard, but Whitaker UD here.
     
  4. Sweet Pea

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    What weight? At LW I'd probably favor Whitaker due to his greater speed and lateral movement, otherwise I might favor Napoles.
     
  5. PowerPuncher

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    Maybe Napoles was faster at LW himself?
     
  6. Sweet Pea

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    Obviously, but that wasn't my point. Whitaker used much more lateral movement at LW, and more effectively due to his quicker feet and reflexes in general. That would give him a much more distinct advantage than his more flat-footed Welterweight self, where he'd be within range of Napoles's greater offensive tools more of the time.
     
  7. teeto

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    Regardless of Pernell being (effectively) better at lightweight, i think if the fight is at 135 pounds it is something to savour probably even more so than it would be at 147, where it would likely be more exciting.
     
  8. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    as much as i love Mantequilla. (although i also like Pernell alot, Napoles is one of my all time favrouites)

    At 135lbs i feel Pernell Whittaker gets this. At 135 Pernell was very fast and boxed in that tight circle in and out. He was very slick in these days and used alot of lateral movement that i see could give Napoles abit of trouble coupled with the angles of shots Whittaker throws. However his balnce wasnt thte greatest at this weight so he could get a flash knockdown against him. Pernell was also very busy at LW and threw lots of jabs this could be the key as Napoles also had a great jab but Peas is one of the best in history so he would win the battle of the jabs.

    Napoles was also a great counter puncher and generally stood in range slipping punches and countering but also had very good movement. He was probably the better offensive fighter as he came in off the counter with a great jab with hard hooks and uppercuts, especially from his left. Jose did keep his hands quite low and Peas speed could be abit much for him and he could be caught by peas jab because of this but Jose was clever and would adjust and probably use his feet more. However Jose had the meatier shots and could put great combos together but saying that so could pea.

    Jose for me had the very top class foot work he was always perfectly balanced and placed for a shot. Pernell as stated above could be caught of balance and it hink Napoles could exploit this. One of Napoles weaknesses is cuts and pernells fast hands and high workrate could open a cut but i will not go into this as Napoles was only stopped on cuts 3 times i believe and all of them afetr 30.

    When i see 2 similar styles generally the quicker guy wins and this fight i see no execption so a Pernell Whittaker at UD. But this will be a close tactical affair fought at quite a high rate. Abit like the McGirt fight.

    At 147lbs the fight is much closer. The closest thing Pernell has fought to Napoles is McGirt and McGirt gave Pernell hell the first time round and Mantequilla is better than Buddy. Also Pea is abit more flat footed and stands more in front of his opponent and i feel Napoles could captialise on this.

    So at 147lbs its a Jose Napoles UD.
     
  9. ThinBlack

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    Lightweight, Perell shuts out Jose, but at Welterweight, Joes beats Pernell by Ud, unless he is cut, but then Pernell would win by a late stoppage, otherwise, he loses by a good margin.
     
  10. teeto

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    Two years down the line and I still don't see Pernell as holding the kryptonite here, the thing is though that I think he can be forced to find it and then put it to use, and he can find it. What I'm saying is that he is perfectly comfortable on the front foot, and I've always said that is the way in which to go about beating Jose Napoles. I still don't know if Pernell is going to maraud enough. Then again picking Napoles is all about him outboxing Whitaker, which will prove problematic. I think Napoles' judgement of distance in conjunction with his better combinations (which is how the prime Napoles operated) are going to do him good though. I like Napoles.
     
  11. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That is absurd.
     
  12. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Remember this ***?
     
  13. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    what a ***** he was.
     
  14. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah, total loser, but he strikes me as the type who'd be very handsome in real life.
     
  15. teeto

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    I hope you're gunna no manilow that post