Is Cain-JDS the most important, significant fight in the history of MMA?

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Part of the reason I'm more or less done with following the sport, at least in anything more than an extremely casual way. (that and boxing is just more aesthetically pleasing to watch to me; I like some high-level JJ now and then but ****ing hate wrestling with a passion and that's one of the most if not the most dominant disciplines in modern MMA).
     
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  2. Primate

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    I'd like to hear the justifications of people thinking this isn't the biggest and most important fight in MMA.
     
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  3. Ai-edy2007

    Ai-edy2007 STOCKTON 209 MOTHER****ER Full Member

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    best heavyweight fight since cro cop vs fedor back in pride.

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  4. Beouche

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  5. Haggis McJackass

    Haggis McJackass Semi-neutralist Overseer Full Member

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    :lol:

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  6. Primate

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    [ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tall_poppy_syndrome[/ame]
     
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  7. Haggis McJackass

    Haggis McJackass Semi-neutralist Overseer Full Member

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    The simple fact is that MMA is a growing sport, and that is basically thanks to the UFC and the UFC alone. In North America the sport was going nowhere until Zuffa got involved. Now it is coming along in leaps and bounds. Each marquee fight gets more attention in the mainstream press than the last one.

    And if promoting the product by:

    * Getting it fully sanctioned and treated as a legitimate sport

    * Getting almost all the fighters under one roof

    * Making the fights that the fans want to see

    * Putting hours of fights live on primetime network TV

    * Making it possible to get invested in the midcard fighters and follow their careers

    * Having a company President who obviously sincerely loves the sport and is passionate about growing it and legitimizing it, and is taking a long-term view to making the UFC one of the premium sporting brands in the world, on par with the NBA or NASCAR


    If only morons find that appealing, then I guess I'm a moron. But if you're a fan of the sport, I can't see how you would hate on what the UFC has done. In a decade it's taken MMA from an all-but-illegal freakshow to legitimate mainstream sport.

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  8. Ai-edy2007

    Ai-edy2007 STOCKTON 209 MOTHER****ER Full Member

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  9. horst

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    Nah. Because these two are not yet proven greats, whereas we've had two proven greats in their primes fighting each other before.
     
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  10. Haggis McJackass

    Haggis McJackass Semi-neutralist Overseer Full Member

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    You are not looking at the whole picture. They may not yet be proven greats, but there's every indication that they could very well be.

    And no fight before this - NO FIGHT - has had anything close to the special circumstances and significance that this one has with being the first UFC heavyweight title fight to be aired live and free on primetime network television. :good

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    Haggis McJackass, Nov 6, 2011
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  11. horst

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    Then for you it's the most important/significant, but for me it isn't. I'm not so interested in circumstances as a fan, only interested in the quality of the fighters.
     
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  12. MaliSlamusrex

    MaliSlamusrex Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not really some of the pride shows had 100k packed into Saitama super arena and almost everyone in Japan watching it on new years day.

    it's pretty big in America.
     
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  13. Primate

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  14. Haggis McJackass

    Haggis McJackass Semi-neutralist Overseer Full Member

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    Well this thread is not about the "quality of the fighters", it is about whether this is "the most important, significant fight". I'm not interested in your personal level of interest. I'm asking about the fight's overall impact on the sport. That's quite a specific question. :good

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    Haggis McJackass, Nov 6, 2011
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  15. monaroCountry

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    Fedor v CroCop and Fedor v Nog for me as well. Those fighters were significant with top fighters from around the globe from different promotions being invited for the NYE event, packing a huge stadium with huge viewership. Those were the golden age of MMA. At that time both fighters were at their prime and were actually proven fighters as well as top fighters in MMA they were also top fighters in their chosen discipline.

    Cain v JDS arent nowhere near as accomplished and the event nowhere near that of Pride.

    Who knows what will happen or even if the UFC will continue to exist in 10 years time.
     
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