if there was alot more footage on greb, he would be #1, better then SRR

Ofcourse it was corrupt, just look at what effect Blinky Palermo and Frankie Carbone had on the great lightweight Ike Williams career.

 

Ray at welter at the age of 25.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMs0Z1leFMU[/ame]

 

As corrupt? I don't really think so.

Robinson claimed he was approached to carry opponents but said he was only once asked to take a dive and he refused.

 

That is indeed an appetizer of near prime SRR, in his hey-day.

And one can see why he kept winning at that weight, absolute monster. :smoke

 

Theres no proof of anyhting about Greb other than stories and that he fixed fights was one of those stories.


I didn't say GREB was a fight fixer, I said he may have been involved in fixed fights. Theres a difference.

 

By the way, thanks for that footage Sean Juan.

Haven't seen that in a long time, was pleasant to watch it again

 

er no

 

you said it yourself no footage exists

so i find it absolutely ridiculous that people can argue hes the goat just based on articles and boxrec

NOBODY on here has seen him fight.if we believed everything we read,that would mean jews are evil and have teeth like rats according to nazi germany.and if resume tells the story, paul williams beat erislandy lara, tito trinidad beat oscar, whitaker drew with chavez etc etc

i'm sorry but i can't accept a guy as p4p goat based on heresay,80 years old newspaper articles and a list of names

and for the record, based on the footage that does exist, his technique is quite poor (although that was the way it was fought in that era)

 

Thats fine. You can believe what you want to believe. Like anyone who talks about Greb, I'm just repeating one of many stories I heard about the guy.

I have no proof and thats my point here. You can't rank Greb because there is NOTHING to go on but stats and stories.

For example, on the occasions Greb lost, usually newspaper decisions, 2 stories about the same fight will sound nothing alike.

 

Boxing has ALWAYS been corrupt, even today. But in the 10's,20's and 30's, it was practically pro wrestling.

Watch some Jack Johnson fights.


I didn't mean to imply the Robinson era was clean.

 

:good