Why did Heredia disclose how he cheats???

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  1. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    that's why floyd does it during his long "vacations" :yep
     
  2. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    A fighter who refuses to get PED tested is not cheating.

    A fighter who say's "test me anytime" is a drug cheat.

    Yeah we get it.:hi::bbb
     
  3. el mosquito

    el mosquito Boxing Addict banned

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    Floyd's long vacations are really suspicious
     
  4. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Marquez may or may not be......but according to team Pacquiao and the many *******s that follow them, if Marquez passes the NSAC post fight drug tests, he's clean.:deal:lol::lol::lol::lol::hi:
     
  5. tinorknitz

    tinorknitz Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "Test me anytime, the **** I'm on is undetectable, thanks Heredia!" :hi:
     
  6. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    and he was always in shape during those said "vacations". :hey
     
  7. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    but his coach makes undetectable drugs! :lol:

    ariza has no record whatsoever. the only "proof" haters has against pac is his big head. :yep

    a-side meth is undetectable and legal. :deal
     
  8. el mosquito

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    Pac had agreed to unlimited urine testing a long time ago and to blood testing with some cut-off. he only want to make sure his wrist will not be punctured so close to the fight. And in any case, OSDT is no longer an issue. Pac has agreed to it and isn't woried about getting his blood taken on the night of the fight. Arum said if USADA wants to take Manny's blood on the night of the fight they can take it from his ass but not from his wrist :yep:yep

    And testing is overrated. Heredia made 20 different drugs that are still undetectable now :yep. If Heredia is my coach, i won't be worried about testing neither :yep

    And if you really want to test, doing it so close to the fight is futile because the cheater will still come out clean. you need to test while the fighter is on vacation (especially really long vacations :yep) where the drugs is being cycled
     
  9. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Marquez has only been with Heredia for 10 weeks, that does'nt give him much time to cycle the drugs out of his system during training........because if Heredia has been providing Marquez with PED's, its been during his training.

    .......and if Pac has agreed to unlimited testing from the beggining except for some blood testing, why in the hell did'nt Pac take Marquez up on his offer to do any kind of testing when it was made public who Heredia was??????


    I find it beyond suspicious that Marquez offers himself to be tested, and yet team Pac is silent on the matter of even entering into urine testing when its known Heredia was a former PED distributor.

    Even more suspicious is that Bob Arum defends Heredia as a conditioning coach by suggesting that top trainers today use legal methods with the same end results that steroids once had.:think
     
  10. megavolt

    megavolt Constantly Shadowboxing Full Member

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    Well the opening paragraph in that excerpt should help you with that.
     
  11. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Heredia cooperated with investigators. That does'nt say anything as to why Heredia would shell out his trade PED secrets to a documentary type video.
     
  12. megavolt

    megavolt Constantly Shadowboxing Full Member

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    Well I dont think he would care anymore about the trade secrets unless he still has some open activity..

    Honestly the cat's out of the bag now so if they came up to him with a proposition for some $$$ on spilling his methods, why not? Besides it could give him some exposure for clean work.
     
  13. wilgen99

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    Divac, stop and look at yourself in the mirror. What do you really know about Pacquiao and the PED allegations against him? Just like everyone else, all you have is opinion and speculations, but you talk as if what little you know is gospel truth. Just like the Mayweathers, your bias on Pacquiao clouds your thoughts, thus, your baseless accusations. Mayweather had his chance to prove his allegation in the disposition, but a coward and liar that he is, only fearless in front of his laptop, he hid himself and preferred to continue sucker punching Pacquiao through the media.. to fight when the opponent is not looking or has no way to fight back in a fair match.

    Let the proper authorities catch those cheats. If pacquiao is PED-cheating, he will be caught, whether he's still active or already retired. The truth has its way of making itself known.

    In the meantime, your baseless ranting and insunuations are irritating and only show how lowly and miniscule your intelligence is. You can enjoy boxing without putting down someone's else reputation. Mayweather is a great boxer, but his life outside the ring is just despicable.

    Boxing is about sportsmanship and respect and unity among men regardless of color and religion. Is Mayweather a manifestation of such values? You know the answer.
     
  14. hmi

    hmi Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Give it up divac. Heredia has a collection of PEDs that are still undetectable until now. Even if there is random testing going on, none of the PEDs will be identified and that is why JMM has no problem with OSDT. Heredia is the world's best when it comes to PEDs. What he shared are just the known PEDs. His best PEDs are still secret. JMM is a benefactor of those PEDs. Look how big he is now.
     
  15. Zacker

    Zacker Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Because it's not really a secret. When he tells how it is done this is for the benefit of the viewer, it's dramaturgy. What is really interesting is names, networks, places. But much of that we don't get to hear. It's actually quite astonishing that he names a specific manager in a public interview.