Prime-4-Prime, "Smokin" Joe Fraiser vs Wladimar Klitschko, who wins?

No, but size would make a big difference in this mythical match-up.

 

What basis do people even consider voting for Wladimir?
Smoking Joe has 3 close fights with the man considered the greatest of all time Muhammmad Ali. He managed regularly to get past Ali's jab and tag him hard, he was also a brilliant body puncher. If he does that to Ali, dont think he'll struggle too much with Wladimir.
Wladimir struggled with Sam Peter, got beaten by Lamon Brewster and Corey Sanders.
Since then he has fought a series of guys Frazier wouldnt have used as sparring partners.
Wladimir is very average, Frazier was one of the best of all time.
Frazier beats him 10 times from 10.
Only way this fight is even close if you replace Joe with Marvis!!

 

Numerous fighters said Ali was the strongest fighter they ever faced.
If Frazier could keep coming and coming against his, over 15 rounds, course he can do it against the very suspect stamina of Wladimir.
David Haye opened up twice v Wlad, and both times hurt him badly, you think Smokin Joe Frazier wouldnt do it far more regularly.
Wladimir had no chance!

 

Baller, all of your credibility instantly goes out the window with your misspelling of Wlad's name, and choosing that photo...

...anyway, Joe would give Wald a rough go, but ultimately, I think Wlad's size and range would be too much for Frazier to overcome. He wouldn't get sparked. I'm thinking a close but clear decision for Wlad.

 

I'd love to say Frazier but I think Wlad would just be too big for him, he would decision him or maybe even TKO him.

Frazier is much better to watch and better p4p though. Even though they are both heavyweights, these two really should be thought of as being in different weight classes, you are not talking about two fighters of similar size here.

 

I voted for Wladimir becuase Frazier couldnt live with size, strength and power of Wladimir. Frazier is just too small and his style would play into the hands of Wladimir. Wladimir would keep it at a distance, tie Frazier up when it got in close, lean on him to weaken him and eventually take him out with jabs and straight right hands. I'd be cheering on Frazier all the way ...... but Frazier simply could not bully Wladimir the way he bullied other fighters of his era. Fraziers style would not be effective. It would be like Frazier-v-Forman but Wladimir's cautiousness and safety-first style would drag the fight into the later rounds.

Frazier beat Ali after Ali came back from his 3 or 4 year ban. Ali was no longer at his peak when Frazier got to him ..... Ali was not the fighter he was years earlier. Ali's best days were already behind him. Look at the 60's version of Ali compared to the 70's version and there is a big difference. Ali still had the intelligence, the technique, skills and the chin ...... but his movement, foot-speed and work-rate had all dropped significantly by the time Ali-Frazier 1 happened. I still consider Ali to be the greatest of all time ..... but the 1960's verion ... not the 70's.

P4P, Frazier may of been the better fighter ..... but in reality it would be a cruiserweight against a super heavyweight. Wladimir wins R9 or 10. Too big, too powerfull, too strong.

 

As a rule of thumb.. a Great Little Man beats a Good Big Man.. but a Great Big Man beats a Great Little Man.

For those using Haye as a reference to Wlads ability to hurt someone. Wlad is a safety first fighter, he goes into the fight looking for the UD. Had Haye tried to come at Wlad like Frazier would.. well we would have seen a much better fight.. but we would have seen Haye laying battered and broken by the end of 5.

20/80 split going to Wlad. If they fought 100 times Frazier would win some, but Wlad would win the considerable majority.

 

Usually i hate the nostaliga for old fighters but as a previous poster pointed out stylisticly this completely hangs on Wlad being able to consistantly land the jab or not.
My guess is probably not so Frazier takes him out mid to late rounds, while Wlad has some moments of his own.

On the flip side i think Frazier would have almost no chance whatsoever vs Vitali who does throw the low hooks that Foreman used so very effectively.

Add to that Vitali's iron chin and work rate and i see it as a impossible task for the old great.

 

Frazier beat Ali on style, not on skill or ring IQ. And even though his style was a perfect match for Ali's all he achieved was go 1 in 3. If you take out that one single win then what has Frazier ever done? Frazier's other claim to fame was being dropped to the floor like 8 times by Foreman without landing a SINGLE punch himself.

Can anyone imagine how Frazier's jaw would react had he taken the bombs Wlad dropped on Purrity and Brewster before he was knocked out himself? Frazier would be carried out on a stretcher.

 

Wlad is just too big. He has power close to George Formans, is bigger than Forman and has better boxing ability than Forman and better movement. Frazier could not live with those disadvantages. Forman beat him becuase Frazier could not force Forman back ..... it would be similar against Wladimir except Wlad would drag the fight out.

... and the fact that Ali was 3 or 4 years past his peak and he could no longer move the way he once did. Ali was only 75-80% of the fighter he once was by the early 70's. I dont think Frazier beat anyone through IQ .... it was his agressive bullying style ... a style that proberbly wouldnt be effective against someone who was so much bigger and stronger (ie. Wlad)

 

What in holy **** are you on about, Wlad would k.o Frazier! I seriously hope you don't believe that. Wlad never knocked out anyone near Fraziers ability. He has never even witnessed a fighter like Joe Frazier.
Klit gets his glass shattered in this one.

 

a great big man will always beat a great small man, especially if he outweights him by 50lbs and is roughly 7 inches taller