Why did Heredia disclose how he cheats???

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  1. Zacker

    Zacker Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Judging from the replies here it seems most think you have aspecific agenda with this. So tell me, am I wasting my time here?
     
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  2. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Actually in another thread where with transcripts on how Heredia goes about beating the testers, it mentions he needs to know exactly what the lab is testing for in order for him to beat them.
    He's asked how he goes about know what the lab is testing for? Heredia responds, "from people on the inside."

    It seems that Heredia in an Olympic type setting with track and field athletes, finds out exactly what the labs doing the testing for those events will go about it, and then he concocts what he will and wont give the athlete.

    I would venture a guess that its different here with the testing of two boxers. Unlike the Olympics, where there are a mass field of athletes being tested, boxing would only have two, Marquez and Pacquiao, had Pacquiao took Marquez up on his offer to test.


    ......and lets remember here, Heredia was caught off guard when he was discovered on 24/7. If he was giving Marquez PED's, I would think two weeks out from the fight, Heredia would'nt have Marquez at the point where the PED's in his system are undetectable.
    .....the same with Pacquiao, which is likely why he did'nt take Marquez up on his offer to have both of them tested.

    Whats got to be taken into account here is that if Heredia is cheating with Marquez, he was going about it with the notion that Marquez would only have to be tested of urine right after the fight.....so he would have Marquez on a schedule to pass a urine ped test after the fight.
    .......and yet both Marquez and Heredia offered to be tested at anytime the day after Heredia's past was discovered.
    Instead of Pacquiao taking advantage of that offer, Bob Arum takes the microphone and defends Heredia.:patsch:nut
    If Pacquiao is clean, this act by Arum makes absolutely ZERO sense.
     
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  3. Relentless

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    in the past JMM has...

    sucked off a japanese guy

    drank he own ****

    and now takes drugs...

    how can you support someone like that?
     
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  4. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Who did Heredia name as remember, this interview is conducted after Heredia has cooperated with FBI agents and was a federal witness.
    I dont see why he would hold out names if those names were already a matter of public record.
     
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  5. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCa1-X7ey5Y[/ame]

    "Hleaaaaavvyy training!"
     
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  6. Relentless

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    yeah because i'm a pacquiao fan aint i bean burrito boy.
     
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  7. Zacker

    Zacker Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well are they really public record? I never saw the names. What I meant is the risk of being sued by, for example, the named manager since that one has a "clean sheet" so far.
     
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  8. Zacker

    Zacker Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No, he just wants to see if what he has given them can be detected, as far as I know. Real doping samples are anonymized and testing procedures are standardized. This means that boxers tests are not recognizable as such to the testing labs, just as any other sample.
     
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  9. hooligan

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    so of ariza had a past like heredia...are you convinced pac is on peds 100%???
     
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  10. tinorknitz

    tinorknitz Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "Test me anytime, the **** I'm on is undetectable, thanks Heredia" - JMM.
     
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  11. Escopeta

    Escopeta Boxing Addict Full Member

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    he got caught, he was a principal witness, came clean. he has to tell the truth and didn't say anything that wasn't already known but made some money with those interviews..
     
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  12. tinorknitz

    tinorknitz Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If he's disclosing this sh!t, it means he has more powerful undetectable drug under his sleeves. He won't disclose everything. Maybe that's what he's giving JMM.
     
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  13. bachatu

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    not sure of the details but supposedly he was busted and cooperated in order to save his ass. As for the video, he may have agreed to cooperate in attempt to restore his name so he could continue to publicly work with athletes. the difference between him and Conte is that he can easily hide in mexico and have his labs, etc, the U.S authorities cant just barge in to see what he's up to. He already knows how to beat the system, what is to say he is still not in the game?
     
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  14. PH|LLA

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    Heredia discloses how he cheats = JMM is clean

    Pacquiao doesn't wanna take a test that wouldn't be able to detect the PEDs anyways = Pac is cheating.

    got it.
     
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  15. u29236

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    You just contradicted yourself from you first post to this post.
     
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