Prime-4-Prime, "Smokin" Joe Fraiser vs Wladimar Klitschko, who wins?

atsch I second that CHEF ! And anyone who doesnt get it wont get the explanation ! :yep

 

atschthe only thing delusional are the status quo spewing nostalga worshipping ******s !:good

 

Frazier gets to the glass in no time, brutal KO.

 

50/50 fight IMO. Frazier maybe a slight favorite. If Frazier can get inside the jab with his movement consistently, he knocks Wlad out. That said, the only guy Frazier ever faced who was half as good at neutralizing that kind of movement as Wlad was George Foreman, who beat Frazier twice.

 

As there is no explanation you fud!!
Haye went for Wladimir agressively twice, and both times hurt him.
He landed the most visably hurtful punches in the fight, from 2 attacks.
Think what Smoking Joe would do by doing that from 1st bell to last.
Go watch him fight Ali, and how relentless he is.
Then go watch Wlad v Sam Peter and see how he deals with a puncher showing agression.
Wladimir would never ever ever ever in a million years handle what Frazier brought.
Theres a reason Foreman said he had hoped to avoid Frazier and Ali went through all the mind games. You think theyd have any fear at all of Wladimir?

 

This is the real world, not a Rocky movie. Joe, may he rest in peace, would have been outsized, outskilled and outpowered. Nothing you can make up for with heart.

 

Haye landed the most desperate swings, mind me. In terms of power punches Wlad landed somewhat more and pretty equal in terms of impact.

People analyze styles sometimes fails to put he human factor into the equation. Getting hit by Wlad feels like getting a ****ing stroke. You still take for granted Frazier would have went at it like usual.

 

Dont bet on the lighting strike the same place twice, fella.

 

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I can see Frazier doing the little silly dance if he ever was meet the klit...


Frazier god bless his soul was a legend back in the day...60-70.

 

Haye has better reflexes than Frazier had, thus a better defence when fighting catiously. Frazier would pose a bigger threat against Wlad, unlike Haye who could do almost nothing, but he sure as hell would not be as hard to hit.

 

Frazier will always be known for his left hook, but his body punching made him a wrecking machine. Ali couldn't walk or move normal for a month after their 3rd fight because of Joe's body attack. If Joe went to work on Wlad's body the way he did Ali's, then he breaks down Wlad. The trick is getting inside Klit's long jab, and that would be tough.

 

Comparing 5'10" 205lb Frazier to 6'2" 243lb Peter is like comparing George Foreman to Rocky Marciano.atsch

 

This fight is still hard to watch. I don't think Joe knew what hit him that night. Funny though, George says in his book, that he was terrified of Frazier leading up to this fight.

 

Wladimir don't fight like Foreman. Wlad boxes and stays on the outside.

Frazier gets inside and takes him out.