Lennox Lewis v Jim Jeffries

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by mcvey, Nov 9, 2011.


  1. DDDUUDDDEE

    DDDUUDDDEE Undisputed Ambien (taker) Full Member

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    Lewis, brutally and early.
     
  2. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    It's obvious why you cannot stand Adam's books. They have documented research that calls you on your hot air ...
     
  3. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Please show ONE NEGATIVE COMMENT I have made concerning Adam Pollack's books.
    For the record I have NEVER read one. So I have NO opinion on them .

    I have several times stated in posts that I have read nothing but positive things about them , and in my only contact with him ,I have been cordial and respectful towards him.
    PS I see you have started with the insults,run out of argument allready? Please read below, it is my last reply to Adam Pollack.


    "Adam thanks for your input I was going on the accounts posted here by such as Senya,in a thread entitled ,"Did Choynski really knock Johnson out?"

    Johnson, who was notoriously economical with the truth said the police stopped it , but accounts say he was down and unable to rise, either from a left or right, temple or chin , take your pick. If you say he was unconscious, I have no problem accepting your research."


    This makes your latest assertion rather more than ridiculous.
     
  4. Boilermaker

    Boilermaker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  5. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    B. I've read the excerpts, good stuff!
    As I have said several times, I have read nothing but positive things about them ,and the diligent research he does for them. That is why, in my last reply to him, I stated, I was happy to accept the results of his research.

    I don't see how I can be any more open -handed than that really?
    I won't get a reply to my request from H. E . simply because there are no negative statements about his work from me, he will adopt the Mendoza strategy,ie ignore all requests for proof of unsubstantiated statements.
    I am beginning to think they are one and the same person.:patsch
     
  6. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    I guess that I would be wasting my breath, asking people to criticaly examine the assumption that Lewis wins.
     
  7. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Why not put your case to the contrary J ?
     
  8. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    The orthodoxy in favour of Lewis, is based almost entirely upon the uncertainty about how Jeffries would fare against a fighter of that type. It is an uncertainty which cuts both ways by definition.

    Jeffries would be able to bring some things to the table that Lewis had not seen before, and that should be factored into predictions.
     
  9. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I would be interested to see your elaboration ,of what Jeffries would bring to the table that Lewis would not have seen before.


    Jeffries carried his left hand low. = Lewis's best punch is his right cross.
    Jeffries lack of defence, more often than not, got his face seriously busted up in his major fights. = Lewis had a very good jab that was 84"
    Jeffries best punch was his left hook, usually to the body= Lewis took many big shots to the body without showing any reaction.

    Jeffries had a significant weight advantage in all his fights ,on average 34lbs for his defences.= Lewis is 30lbs heavier.
    Jeffries was stronger than his opponents and gradually wore them down= Lewis is at least 4 inches taller ,30lbs bigger and NO ONE has ever outmuscled him ,and this includes GIANTS.
    Jeffries never met a man bigger than himself= see last post.

    Lewis has the advantage in size,skill, power .

    Put ANY of Jeffries title challengers into a ring with a prime Lewis ,and tell me how many , [if any,] go more than 5rds?

    Now, tell me what Jeffries brings to the table?
     
  10. Pachilles

    Pachilles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He brings an 800lb bull, which he carried on his back for many miles , effortlessly
     
  11. DonBoxer

    DonBoxer The Lion! Full Member

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    Lewis by murder.
     
  12. DonBoxer

    DonBoxer The Lion! Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  13. heehoo

    heehoo TIMEXICAH! Full Member

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    Mismatch of the highest order, Jeffries gets beaten like a slave in this one.
     
  14. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    We have never seen Jeffries in the ring with anything close to Lennox Lewis while Lewis has fought many men in a physical mold like Jeffries .. it would definitely tell us how good Jeffries chin was ... if it was as advertised he loses like Mercer ... if not he could lose like Golota or Morrison ...
     
  15. Ramon Rojo

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