Im just saying It is capable of a Big crowd of 8-10000 if Ward Does his thing against Froch. Right now he is the closest thing to the FACE of American Boxing:deal
Let's define the best, then. I'll try being a S6 hater for fun. Taylor - shot to oblivion. Naturally gasses after 8-9, entering the S6. AA - the brainless turtle couldn't adapt to 168 because the size advantage he had over the top 10-15's he fought at MW was non existent at SMW, exposed for struggling with quick boxers and being very, very unidimensional. Froch - got floored by shot Taylor, outfoxed vs Dirrell who made him look slooow, lost to Kessler being open most of the fight. Dirrell - no heart. Just no heart. Will never be elite. Could be sooo much more. Kessler - got trashed to a TD vs up & comer Ward, planned to duck Bute by fighting Bouadla (!!!) for the vacant WBO Euro belt aiming at WBO "champ" Stieglitz who got TKO'ed by both Berrio and Andrade. Ward - best headbutt talent, Hopkins University graduate, dirty fighting religious fukk in the division. ...and the replacements; Green - average power, got hurt big time vs Miranda. Fell for Ward's wrestling game and lost a wide UD. Got KTFO by "Old Johnson". Bika - blueprints designed by Calslappy & Bute. Ward got hit by rights on the inside, decided to lean on Bika's left eye using his forehead and, ultimately, all his momentum. Switched to southpaw, big surprise there, and landed big lefts on the side/back of Bika's head. Classy stuff. Old Johnson - KO'ed Green where as Green had his moments vs Ward, landed big rights & left hooks on Froch in rounds 7-8, got dominated by Bute who he respected so much he very seldom followed the missing jabs with overhand rights fearing the counter body left hooks & uppercuts. In fact when he did connect with overhand rights, not more than 4-5 I'd say -feel free to point them out, Bute took them as well as Froch did. ... See what an agenda can make people say??? :rofl I think most Bute haters are after Canada or French Canadians, or a combination of both. Bute ain't an @sshole, don't hate him for not being one.
Fair enough. But I don't see Ward drawing more than 3-5K outside Oakland, and no one in the US knows Bute at all. Hell, no one in the US knows Ward, ffs!
I'm with you on this one. Plus, it's a built in mega-fight; something to look forward to after the tournament. If there were no legitimate questions left to answer, the whole division would fade back to obscurity.
Ward ain't drawing more than 5000. Very simple, the dilemna is always the same when Bute is involved... Other promoters want to fight in their backyards but with the gate money from Montreal.. Pavlik vs Bute was gonna be in Montreal, only because TOP RANK said we want the most money and it's in Montreal, not AC..Vegas or anywhere else against Bute. INTERBOX are ready to make less in order to make Bute fight in the US or Europe. Jean Bedard, Interbox President, has been on record saying they might have to start promoting fights in the States on their own...if American promoters can't reasonably deliver the goods...
I'm American, but seriously, f*ck the US. People don't support fights. Fight in Canada or Europe. They have serious fans in masses. Why have two of the best fighters in the world fighting in front of a smaller crowd than the Bon Jovi cover band playing down the boardwalk?
I don't find it normal that US crowds are so low... Promoters must definitely be doing something wrong, or better yet not doing enough and most likely not doing all the right things...
:roll: ....+ give at least 20% of his 3 future purses following that fight and give another $100 000.00 of his purse for every round Ward survives.... A solid foundation for discussion :secret
The S6 winner will be undisputed. All opportunity will flow in that direction. If it's Ward, he's already said whats up. If it's Froch, he'll let Bute chill before he decides to knock his ass out. The S6 winner will very likely meet the winner between Kessler - Stieglitz before thinking about pursuing Bute. I expect Kessler to win this bout, and I'm sure that Kessler would be looking forward with a rematch with Ward or Froch.
Pasky, I've already said it: The President doesn't know **** about boxing and stupidities keep coming out from his mouth. Non sense after non sense. Please delete your ESB account.....I mean common 30%!!! Where's your head at?!?!?!!!!!
Don't use bold moron, and Bute will and should fight the winner. He will beat Ward, as long as the fight is not in California.
He's preparing for the keyboard bashing he's gonna take when Ward and Froch refuse career high paydays to fight Bute on the East Coast.:-( You see, that's what Bute haters do.......Kessler 3.5 mil But Kessler needed more, I mean, Kessler wanted a title, oops, Bute has a title, I mean Kessler wanted more bargaining power. 35% as a challenger aint good enough Ward.....likely 50/50.....ah, Ward is the unified Champ, he deserves 70% like Wlad vs Haye, oops I meant like Haye, oops, I meant like Manny, oops Floyd, oops, nevermind, Bute's white, he's a ducker. Froch.....haters only like Froch cuz they know Froch can't beat Ward.....but Froch, a nontitlist was a S6 finalist(knowing if Bute gets him CF is getting starched like Ward hasn't done since Kenny Kost.) But Froch deserves 50% cuz he is coming from GB, i mean cuz he lasted 12 with Ward and Kessler, I mean cuz, nevermind, frochs a *******, Bute should fight Pascal, Cloud or BHOP, no, better yet, if he's so bad let him fight a Klitschko.
Ward is not knocking anybody out with his weak punches. Ward leans in with his head against Bute, he will get hurt bad.
You like that huh Newbie? Stick around and you too can be a great analyst, in 10-15 years, if you work hard, and you listen carefully. :good