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Thank you, well said.

 

I scored it 114-112 DLH, but I can understand why people would score it for Whitaker even if I personally don't agree with that. He succeeded in making DLH look bad, but he didn't look very good himself either.

What I always found weird about this fight was how DLH seemed to approach Whitaker as if he thought Whitaker hit like Hearns or something. It was weird. DLH showed nowhere close to that kind of respect for an opponent's punching power in any other fight of his really (except the last 3 rounds of DLH-Trinidad.)

The fight to me at least was DLH landing glancing or partial power shots, while Whitaker landed more numerous, but much softer yet slightly cleaner jabs. Either way, it was a hideous fight to watch and a scoring nightmare.

One thing impressive from Whitaker in this fight was he effectively made DLH's jab and left hook ineffective (I think he only handed 3 or 4 flush left hooks during the fight), and those are the two best weapons in the DLH arsenal. As a result, DLH looked most effective with body shots and uppercuts inside, which he didn't do enough of. Instead, the fight took place at a slow pace at a distance, which favored Whitaker more than DLH. I was surprised DLH did not try and impose his size on Whitaker and try to fight in close rather than engage in the boring, ugly tactical fight it was.

As for DLH, I found it pretty interesting that he switched Southpaw a couple of times and he enjoyed some success when he did so. He stopped doing it after he lost his balance in round 9, but before that he seemed like he had an easier time reaching Whitaker when he was in Southpaw. I think he could have done better in that fight had he stayed in Southpaw more consistently, and had he fought inside more.

In short, I think DLH blundered in fighting a fight more suited to Whitaker's strengths than his own, but that he still did better work than Whitaker. Had DLH fought a different fight, I don't think it would have been as close. Conversely, had Whitaker been younger, the outcome also likely would have differed in some way too.

As for the decision, I don't think the problem was that DLH won, I think the problem was it was so wide. It should have been either a DLH split decision, a majority decision, or a UD where he just won by a point or 2 on each score card. I always score it 6-5-1 DLH or 7-5 DLH. I don't know how they got those 8-4 or 9-3 score cards.

 

How?

Trinidad fought a "past it" Sweet Pea who did make that fight somewhat competitive despite taking some big shots. In the second Mosely fight, Delahoya threw the same flurries the crowd cheered for when he fought Mayweather. Shane landed plenty of inside counter shots and blocked a lot of what Delahoya threw which people forget. Mayweather did the same thing, blocking a lot of the same flurries that Oscar was credited against Sweet Pea and Ike Quartey. Quartey really beat up Oscar and I though he deserved the nod in that too. I will agree that Oscar was robbed against Trinidad because he kept his feet moving the entire fight. His mistake was thinking he had the fight won like Ken Norton vs Ali III. He ran for the last couple of rounds while Trinidad kept coming forward with jabs and straight rights.

 

Pea v Oscar

10-9 pea pretty much controls oscar this round staying out of range
9-10 better round by oscar who finds success and connects with pea throughout the round
10-9 pea threw more this land and osacr seemed to struggle with pea's offence whilst failing to land anything significant himself.
9-10 pea made oscar consistently miss but failed to land anything of his own throughout the round.
10-9 oscar tried to be more patient and gave pea timing leading to pea controlling the vast majority of the round behind his jab
10-9 very close round, oscar landed a big shot but seemed to get outpunched for the most part.
9-10 close round I thin oscars shots were slightly more effective
9-10 failry clear oscar round with some beautifully timed shots.
10-8 pea lands a counter and oscar touches down for a knockdown.
9-10 very close round with oscar seeming to time pea whenever he got close.
10-9 another very close round with oscar fighing on the outside but losing the jabbing contest.
9-10 another close round but oscar seemed the stronger finisher and too many of his shots got through for me to score it on pea's defence.

114-113

My evaluation of pea has increased a fair bit and I've put him above Leonard (however I'm going to rewatch hagler-leonard next and if this time I score it Leonard he moves back above Pea) I mean the level of performances he gave over a decade (Mayweather - De La Hoya) are absolutely supreme. Truly one of the Elite greats of our sport.

 

i scored this fight even, i believe 115-115. had some even rounds in there. close fight.

 

Going in, de la Hoya was on top form, Whitaker was looking old. Sweet Pea gave it one final show, the sign of a great, but de la Hoya still deserved the nod IMO.

 

i thought delahoya won...........but i thought ike quertey beat delahoya

 

Whitaker hardly put two-three-four punches together.

 

114-113 whitaker

 

114-113 Whitaker. I scored it last night actually. Difficult fight to score.

 

Made worse by the fact that DLH often celebrated them.

Does anything speak more clearly about what a fake Oscar was?

114-113 Pea in a (n)eihter way type of fight.

 

A prime Mayweather edged an inactive past prime DLH, barely.
A past prime Whitaker had a close fight that could have gone either way with an actie prime DLH (I had it by one round for Sweet Pea).

I like Whitaker´s over Mayweather´s performance against DLH.

 

Me too.

One of Floyd's most disappointing efforts for mine.

To me Whitaker-DLH, as disappointing as it was, was easily of a higher calibre than DLH-Floyd.

 

I agree with you here. Floyd's perfomance wasn't his greatest but he blocked a lot of Delahoya's shots that the crowd cheered for. The refs didn't by it though. I still believe Whitaker out-boxed Delahoya moreso than Mayweather did.