2012 End Of Klitschko Prophecy Thread

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  1. MagicMan91

    MagicMan91 The Main Event Mafia Full Member

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    :lol::lol::rofl:rofl:patsch
     
  2. The MesserStick

    The MesserStick DavidTua.net Blows Full Member

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    Solis is unranked in all ABC's right now. Chauncy is #6 WBC and #10 WBO. Only ******s think Boxrec is a relevant rating system. It is more corrupt than all of the ABC's. The ABC's are corrupt on the basis of who pays them cash money to fight for their belts. Boxrec is corrupt on the basis of Nationalism....their UK slanting of the HW rankings is a declaration of war on the rest of the World Wide HW Division.

    Solis has never fought a pro fight without a proper training camp and notice...yet he is always fat as hell. Team Solis does not have the stones to face Welliver on a level playing field.

    Chauncy passed by Odlanier in the rankings and now Odlanier is sniffing his farts. Some of you are calling Chauncy Wellaturd? Well, **** rolls down hill, so Solis is being hit by avalanches of of Welliver Turds. :deal
     
  3. The MesserStick

    The MesserStick DavidTua.net Blows Full Member

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    Another ******. :patsch

    Solis got his title shot through the WBC. He won't get another 1 without an ABC ranking either. Chauncy is Top 10 to both brothers. Solis is nowhere to be f'n found. :deal
     
  4. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    Care to address my post, or do you hold back on talking boxing finances these days?
     
  5. The MesserStick

    The MesserStick DavidTua.net Blows Full Member

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    I have nothing to do with finances and am way out of my league on that.

    I know that Welliver would be willing to fight Holyfield in China and for Holyfield to get much more money than him. I believe that he would be willing to do that for any big fight in which the Chinese want to negotiate a higher purse for his opponent. That is 1 on 1 negotiations between the chinese promoter and each camp. He'd get his purse set and the other guy as well. Some guys he will probably get more, some guys he could get less, maybe even much less for giant named guys.

    For his NZ promotion, IMO it is risky and he will have to decide with his backers how much to prudently spend. I don't know if Sky TV is on or not for any TV or money, I don't know how much revenue stream you can expect to have from the gate or sponsors or anything. If he fought David Tua there, at some point, I know for a fact he would have no problem taking much less than Dave.

    To go on the raod and accept an offer from another guy....I don't know, but it is riskier and should bring more than what you could do otherwise without being a road fighter, or it should have eliminator or mandatory implications.

    I think Welliver would sign up for any Final 4 tourney any ABC wanted to do. And participate in those fights anywhere in the world. Leapai, Welliver, Tua and Meehan would be a nice round robin for that region. Any of the other ABC's with more worldly groupings would probably also see Welliver enter. Any fight with anybody with a mandatory position on the line would probably get taken anywhere.

    But really, I have no idea how anything will pan out in the way of money. I hope Chauncy gets treated fairly though for any big fight. I have faith that he will in China, because he moves a lot of tickets there. Other folks, I expect them to try and low ball him unless they have their arm twisted.

    One other thing though, we should consider the Chinese ability to enter into any of Welliver's proposed ABC fights that goes to purse bid. Welliver will have much more bargaining power in the area of purse bids than just straight up offer negotiation from another promoter.
     
  6. canis-lupus

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    Fighter who take belt from Klitschko's is Robert Helenius and that will happen late -2012 or yearly -2013
     
  7. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    I don't remember either Chambers or Thompson considering the 50K to be less than fair, even though both have generated that kind of loot without the other involved. Yeah it was elimiator which is a reward in itself, but for Chauncey, you gotta think what the implications would be if he were to smoke Solis in a rematch.......I could see that being an instant Vitali fight in the making.:deal
     
  8. canis-lupus

    canis-lupus Guest

    Wladimir will KO Mormeck and quite quickly, so he is a champ still:deal
     
  9. The MesserStick

    The MesserStick DavidTua.net Blows Full Member

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    They played us bro. Thompson got a gift. Chambers is still in line for another ABC. Goosen is riding fat. Don't think for a second this fight fell apart for anything other than cash reasons....across the board. The IBF is a **** hole of an organization. Not to make Thompson fight someone for that mando is a travesty.
     
  10. pirao666

    pirao666 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hahahaha, ok I'll play along, since Mormeck is ranked higher than Welliver in 3 of the 4 ABC sanctioning bodies, you surely agree that he deserves a shot at the Klitschkos much more than Welliver, and that JMM is of course a better HW boxer than Welliver, am I right? :deal
     
  11. The MesserStick

    The MesserStick DavidTua.net Blows Full Member

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    Like I said....when Wlad gets sick of playing with cruisers, he can come see Welliver. Mormeck is the most deserving Cruiser left. I just hope Tarver, Lebedev, and Huck don't get their shots next. Eventually Wlad should man up and see a HW.
     
  12. eazym1979

    eazym1979 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Your the worst type of fan ur so bias that is not funny, he took the fight

    on ten days notice what a brave man and he got crushed and he

    weighted what 284 for that fight, but yet u say nobody will fight him

    and when Solis gave him his shot he sucked but its not his fault when

    he wasnt training he let himself weight nearly 300 pounds. i guess that

    damm Solis forced him to eat cookie and cakes at gun point right,also

    u act like him having some minor title is equal to k2 titles "he's 11 title

    defences'' of a regional title you must be so proud. and the only think he

    smokes in a Solis rematch is his pole and he is a Wellturd
     
  13. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    I might give Solis a SLIGHT edge in power, but overall, Solis is literally out of his league in a rematch, especially since he looks like the 2008 Chuancey moreso than the 2008 Solis these days.:-(
     
  14. eazym1979

    eazym1979 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Solis is a bum and he already proven that against big vitaily and i hate

    when people say he was in trouble until he hurt his knee bull****, i

    watched the solis fight and it was onesided and that should tell you

    all you need to know about wellturd. he fights journeymen his whole

    career and now he deserves a title shot, no ****ing way. if he was

    to beat tua and barrett so what, beat a real top ten heavyweight

    like chambers and thompson or chagez and then will see, untill

    then he's just a modern day joe hipp :bart
     
  15. pirao666

    pirao666 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm waiting, TS, or do you use different standards when it comes to Welliver? :yep