Hypocrisy regarding Bute has reached new hights of stupidity

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by BeastsideBoxing, Nov 11, 2011.


  1. MJK

    MJK Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What's really weird is that haters/doubters have often a double standard.

    For example:
    Some say that "Bute doesnt have a resume so he is not with the best." The remedy would be to fight the best and prove himself.
    But others say that "Bute is not worthy to face the best".

    Another one is "he should fight Dirrell or any other S6 participants".
    Others are saying "Johnson was shot and not good to begin with".
    And we might ask ourselves what would be the reaction if he face a Dirrell that didnt fight for 2 years now...?

    Another one is "he is so overated, he never fought anyone".
    But at the same time "he is so bad, he lost to Andrade".
    Is he overated or bad? Some dont like him because he didnt lost to Andrade, but still feel he lost to him and so, since he lost to Andrade, he is bad...

    We could go on and on.

    But when you see stuff like that, what I understand is that they just try to find anything to justify their hate. I'm starting to think that these people are not even worth the time to write a post to them.

    But at the same time, its been 2 years that the fact that Bute was not invited in the S6 is known. Still some (that know that fact) continue to write post that Bute refuse to go in the S6. Because of them, other people that dont know are confuse, like the one on this thread. So it means that once a couple of months, somebody needs to put facts straight and make a thread like this one.

    Good job Beast.
     
  2. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    Unless Bute agrees to 25% in Ward's mom's basement, with 3 rematches, Buta aint getting Ward before Ward gets Hopkins.:deal
     
  3. The_President

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    LOL, does no one see the contradictions in this one Bute fan post?

    Bute's toughest competition to date is an old Johnson, and that quals him the #1 SMW spot above the S6 competitors who've been facing each other.
    Ward faced and defeated Kessler (rated above Johnson), Abrahams (Also rated above anyone Bute has fought), and yet Bute is number 1 in division and deserves number opportunity to face S6 winner. :patsch

    Froch's faced and defeated Johnson, Dirrell, and Abraham, all better opponents then Bute has faced. Yet, Bute fans rate him above Froch.
    Sure Froch struggled with Dirrell, and received some home based decision help. I actually had Dirrell winning by 1. Still, Dirrell is much better win for Froch than anyone Bute has faced.
    Froch lost to Kessler, but I have Kessler beating Bute also. The difference once again is Bute has never faced anyone of Kessler quality.

    Sadly, I think you may be right about Bute being setup to face Green sometime soon. That sucks, but is consistent with the soft matches Bute's mangaement is famous for. A fight like that has even less value to Bute then the Johnson fight and will be less than meaningless. Bute has needed to step up for the last 3 years. This **** is getting real tired.

    Come on and stop with the insanity!
     
  4. Badlok

    Badlok Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    At least JT bring speed and skills for a couple till he fade
     
  5. drozzy

    drozzy AERE Full Member

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    Sure. For some reason though I would much rather see Bute toying with Green than Taylor getting a one-way ticket to retirement... Taylor should stay home at this point TBH, for his own well being. Hopefully he proves me wrong by looking great in his upcoming tune-up.
     
  6. Badlok

    Badlok Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree with you on this one , and i respect JT too much for wanted to see him get knock out.
     
  7. BeastsideBoxing

    BeastsideBoxing "The Thrill" Gavril Full Member

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    My point is after the end of the Super Six Ward and Froch had their chance against the winner Bute didn't, Kessler had his chance against both 1 win 1 loss , Bute didn't, even Abraham had, hell.. even Allan Green might have had. Froch Ward and Kessler been invited in the tournament Bute didn't. After leaving a guy outside for more than 2 years of a tournament that stoled 8 of top 10 fighters in the division, you don't think it's about time to give him a chance?
     
  8. BatTheMan

    BatTheMan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Throw some names out. This rant is useless without them. I think all the 'respectable' posters gave Bute his props.
     
  9. Badlok

    Badlok Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :huh you dig your own hole :clap:
     
  10. The_President

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    Bute didn't get left out.
    If he did he seems to be happy with it.

    He deserves a chance only if the S6 winner and runner up wish to fight him, but they are not obligated to do so.

    I expect after the finals Ward and Froch will take a brief rest before one or the other face the winner of the WBO match up. If it's Froch, and he wins, I expect to see a rematch between he and Ward to unify.

    If it's Ward and he wins, I expect he'll likely move up to LHW to fill Hopkin's shoes. :yep
     
  11. The_President

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    LOL, stop reaching for straws.

    This is about relative competitiveness, not ATG status. :patsch
    Considering them over hyped has nothing to do with their competitiveness against one another. Fans and managers are the ones who do most of the hyping.

    LMAO at desperate people. :rofl
     
  12. Badlok

    Badlok Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Desperate peoples take there wishes for facts , just read your last post on this topics to see an exemple :hi:
     
  13. The_President

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    Stop faking and address the real issues hype man!


    LOL, does no one see the contradictions in this one Bute fan post?

    Bute's toughest competition to date is an old Johnson, and that quals him the #1 SMW spot above the S6 competitors who've been facing each other.
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    and yet Bute is number 1 in division and deserves number opportunity to face S6 winner. :patsch

    Froch's faced and defeated Johnson, Dirrell, and Abraham, all better opponents then Bute has faced. Yet, Bute fans rate him above Froch.
    Sure Froch struggled with Dirrell, and received some home based decision help. I actually had Dirrell winning by 1. Still, Dirrell is much better win for Froch than anyone Bute has faced.
    Froch lost to Kessler, but I have Kessler beating Bute also. The difference once again is Bute has never faced anyone of Kessler quality.

    Sadly, I think you may be right about Bute being setup to face Green sometime soon. That sucks, but is consistent with the soft matches Bute's mangaement is famous for. A fight like that has even less value to Bute then the Johnson fight and will be less than meaningless. Bute has needed to step up for the last 3 years. This **** is getting real tired.

    Come on and stop with the insanity!
     
  14. BeastsideBoxing

    BeastsideBoxing "The Thrill" Gavril Full Member

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    They should be obligated to fight him or should just shut the **** up about him proving himself because they are the only ones who can prove against right away. THey and Kessler who chose Stieglitz.







    You seem so happy with Ward going at LHW with a division still left with questions masks all over it.

    Is Bute better than Ward ?
    Have the headbutts been an important factor for the way the Kessler fight turn out?
    Could Ward vs Dirrell ever happen? Why it didn't happen in the first place?
     
  15. ploys

    ploys New Member Full Member

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    people are whining bitches who criticise fighters to try & look clever.

    don't let it get you down. :thumbsup