Hypocrisy regarding Bute has reached new hights of stupidity

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  1. drozzy

    drozzy AERE Full Member

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    Johnson never got TKO'ed by brawlers like Andrade & Berrio.
     
  2. BatTheMan

    BatTheMan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Stieglitz is above Johnson in the SMW rankings and rightly so even though it's close.
     
  3. drozzy

    drozzy AERE Full Member

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    Sure. Understandable to an extent, given where Johnson's at in his career.

    Johnson's ring IQ >>> Stieglitz's ring IQ, though. :D
     
  4. BatTheMan

    BatTheMan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You are right. Johnson cannot execute any longer though.
     
  5. The_President

    The_President Boxing Addict banned

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    I rate him higher at this stage also.
    He is, after all the current WBO champion, right?
     
  6. drozzy

    drozzy AERE Full Member

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    Yep. The same guy who years ago twice tried to get his hands on the IBF title, and who twice failed in attempting so.

    Thing is, Kessler looks like the second coming of Pernell when compared to Berrio & Andrade who both stopped Stieglitz. This won't be competitive, Stieglitz will hit air & gloves where as Kessler landing power straight rights will be a huge confidence booster at this point, especially considering a belt comes with the win.

    Mismatch, but a good scrap while it lasts.
     
  7. AnotherFan

    AnotherFan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There is a BIG difference.

    Froch disposed of old Johnson because he was put in front of him on his way to the final.

    Bute handpicked old Johnson after lowbailing Kessler.
     
  8. drozzy

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    Selective views, meh.

    Froch ate plenty of left hooks and right hands during R7-R8 adding up to a competitive fight in terms of punch stats, where as Bute connected with over twice more punches than Johnson.

    Johnson's shot at Bute's belt was probably the last title bout of his career. Motivation was there no doubt.

    Bute didn't lowball Kessler. Simple as that. You can provide your own source, or explain why you think so considering that...

    A) Pavlik was offered over a mil even with his condition/status;
    B) Kessler is the most recognized SMW in Québec outside of Bute
    C) Kessler fought Bouadla for the vacant WBO Euro title

    "Handpicked", right... there was a whole lot of S6 level opponents available at the time, yeah, yeah... Old Johnson and dumbass midget Abraham were both in the S6 semis. Bute was only trying to relate to Froch & Ward, that's all.

    :lol:
     
  9. florin3k3

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    I must admit that this wasn't anywhere near what I expected you to reply. I too have noticed that, while still not brawling, Bute has started to fight a bit wreck less. For example, the later rounds of the Johnson fight. He was taking needless "risks". I know Johnson wasn't showing much of anything but as we all saw in the first Andrade fight, trying to please the fans can get you into trouble.
    To me it's as if there are 3 boxers in Bute. One that is very cautious the first 3 rounds doing just that bit more than his opponent in order to get the round. The second is the one that through rounds 4-8 is smart, fast, you name it. This is where he does the damage without taking almost any risk. Then there's the one that between 9-12 starts getting wreckless. Seems a bit out of his comfort zone. He's already way ahead on points but gets a bit carried away. I like the 4-8 round Bute :)
     
  10. The_President

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    That's what I mean. He's lucky he was in there with an old Johnson and that Johnson's right hand was dead. Otherwise he may have found himself in a war. Too bad Johnson's age coupled with his injured right hand had to make Johnson all but defenseless on that night. The fight really didn't test Bute beyond what we already know.
    I'd like to see Bute in there with a Tavoris Cloud. Someone with some serious offense. I think once Bute starts getting tagged, he'll revert back to trying to slug with his opponent, just like Gatti did.

    I think this might be the case with Froch if Froch decides to try jumping on Bute early to hurt him. This may be the case since Froch says he has no respect for Bute for hiding away and fighting nobodies.
    I'm not convinced that Bute can keep his head and box once he gets hurt. Too bad the division has no skilled brawler like a Margarito to face him.
     
  11. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Didn't make it past the Dirrell insult, Breh with all due respect (assuming Dirrell is 90% the fighter he was prior to the injury) Dirrell ****s Bute up. That doesn't make Bute a bad fighter and that isn't my implication, but If you can't/don't see Dirrell's talent and ability, then I can't take you opinion seriously.
     
  12. The_President

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    Dirrell is the most talented of them all. He's just missing that one ingredient that makes a fighter great.
    I'm not sure if it's heart, focus, or stamina, but he's missing something.
    He seems to have a lot of confidence, so I'm not sure if it's heart, as much as focus.
     
  13. hmi

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    Bute can fight first the second place winner in the Super 6 and then fight the winner next.
     
  14. Fightfan of Mtl

    Fightfan of Mtl Bad Intentions Full Member

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    Good to read that post from you, I agree on all counts.
     
  15. Skilletscuz

    Skilletscuz mma champ Ronda Rousey Full Member

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    hmmmm, i'll say that Dirrell is the MOST ATHLETIC boxer in the SMW. I honestly dont think he's even got his own style down yet. He's leaned on his athleticism heavily to bail him out or get things going. Andre Ward is the most "talented" out of all the SMW's. Dirrell doesnt suffer from stamina, thats idiotic. He suffers from confidence and "heart", the desire to compete and the willingness to persevere. Ward has that in ABUNDANCE...