When will fans understand that styles make fights?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Jack, Nov 13, 2011.


  1. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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  2. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Umm no. Mayweather is more skilled then Marquez. If the only lapse in ability was Mayweathers speed and strength, then Marquez would have atleast been competitive against Mayweather. He wasnt. Mayweather toyed with him. Not only because Mayweather is bigger and faster, but because he is more skilled.
     
  3. Daruf

    Daruf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The 3 important things that JMM does that makes him so effective vs Manny that Mayweather does not do at all.

    1 able to match Pacs volume
    2 counter punches in COMBINATIONS (very key) single shot counters never discouraged Pac
    3 most importantly he throws when Manny throws (Mayweathers slips/ducks/blocks and then counters)

    I can't believe im saying this but im in agreement with Jack here (after his delusional Haye vs Wlad period admitting this makes me feel all ill inside)
    Styles make fights, Mayweather could very well beat Pac maybe even easily but not because JMM is succesful, Mayweather never followed that blueprint in his life.
     
  4. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Is this a joke? :lol:
     
  5. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  6. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Show anyone PBF-JMM and ask primarily who the counter puncher is and they'll say PBF.

    Ask me to stop? You could suck a fart through Mayweathers ****, excuse me if I ask you to stop, period.
     
  7. Toopretty

    Toopretty Custom made Full Member

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    :rofl Marquez trainer Nacho said in the 24/7 series that just aired.. lmao that Floyd was the more skilled fighter and that was the reason why he won. Unless he is just lying.
     
  8. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Marquez barely averaged 40 punches per round in his last 3 fights vs Pacquiao. Marquez is not a busy fighter. And was not busy fighter last night.


    Counter punchers lower their opponents output. Which Marquez does. And its what Mayweather does. As to why Pacquiao isnt as active against Marqiuez as he usually is.


    So in summation, anyone who agress with Jack has no idea what they are talking about.
     
  9. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Log off just freaking log off. Mayweather isnt more skilled then Marquez? :lol:
     
  10. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Mayweather did anything he wanted in that fight. When he wanted to counter, he countered. When he wanted to get off first. He got off first. When he wanted to walk Marquez down and give him a beating, he walked him down and gave him a beating.


    You dont know **** about baxin.
     
  11. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Your post shows YDKSAB.

    1 - No need to match volume when you land the FIRST punch and stop the guy from punching
    2 - WTF does this even mean? If you stick a guy with a perfect counterpunch the action automatically FREEZES and only one punch is needed NOT a combination. If you are counter punching in combinations that means you have planted and are now EXCHANGING. This is BAD.
    3 - Have you ever watched a recent FMJ fight? He punches BEFORE his opponent when he gets the rhythm. Also, Pac's arms are so short that FMJ can touch Pac EASILY if Pac even attempts to punch.

    You, like jack, are delusional. Stop letting the hate cloud your Boxing judgment. :lol:
     
  12. Daruf

    Daruf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Also on a side note i think Marquez unlike Mayweather actually does anything to NOT stink up a joint so he played the aggressor vs Mayweather which is not his style at all.

    The people here that make a case for Marquez maybe being a more skilled counter puncher could be on to something when it comes to pure textbook skill.

    Mayweather is obviously a defensive genius with also great counter punching but relies a lot on his natural gifts that JMM does not have.
     
  13. Wiesiek

    Wiesiek Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah typical Esb debate. Say something which is unpopular against some groupies and there you go with the emoticons and ****. If you guys think that Mayweather with his 1-2 is more skilled offensively than Marquez than you re blind. Its the speed and Reflexes that Floyd capitalises on the most. Take away he's reflexes and he'll end up Like Roy.

    Mayweather-Marquez fight at that circumstances is totally irrelevant in the discussion. Pure Skill dont win fights. Marquez was too slow, too small, and too unprepared for that fight (no steroids and ****).

    Taking to account how irrational this place is i will point out the obvious saying that im not talking about who is overall better fighter.
     
  14. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Mayweather walked Marquez down in the fight. Now you are going from you dont know **** about baxin, to please shut the **** up.
     
  15. Daruf

    Daruf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Previous 2 fights both had punchstats that far exceeded anything Mayweather has ever done.
    Pac does not throw as much because he knows Marquez will match him, with Mayweather once we go passed the 40 a round mark it goes into uncharted terrain for Floyd.

    Anyway you are about the most delusional ***** on this board so consider this my one and only reply to you because i wasted too much time on you already in the past.