*******s don't know the first thing about boxing, they don't care about the sport, styles making fights means nothing to them.
this aint about styles. they tried hyping this guy to be the best of this generation and of all time. he was exposed big time. the manny hype is over
He was in such a tragic shape that he couldnt USE his skill. Drastic example( not analogy): Have you seen Toney-Lebedev fight? Well, we all know which fighter is more skilled, but Toney's age and weight prevented him from showing his skill in the fight.
Are you kidding? What the hell was "defensive" about that stomping he did to both Mosley and Ortiz? You have no idea what you are watching. None. Mayweather gets in front of a guy forcing him to punch. Once he has the reads (2-4 rounds)? He starts leading the guy. Literally pre-countering. Mayweather rarely if ever gets into throwing post slipping. He is too good. What? Reflexes have nothing to do with balance. Pac is a Boxer with great speed and power and therefore his balance is crap. Why? He just has to connect. Mayweather uses balance and timing. Speed just makes it all the more deadly. You are holding your view because YDKSAB. Silly? Are you kidding? Hell I just called the JMM fight a tune up. In retrospect, I realize just how much above these guys FMJ really is. He is in a different universe. Marquez is a great fighter. Marquez exposed both Pac and his leftover shot cherry picking ways. Marquez was dominated by Mayweather. Wow. Just wow! Since he is now "good" at the weight? Tell Marquez to ask for a rematch. Same result. Probably worse. Nobody sane even considered asking for that fight. Go figure.
Jack pack it in mate the thread get worse by the day you dont know anything about boxing Everyone understands styles make fight and PFB has the perfect style a better version of marquez in everyway go figure noob atsch
um ........I thought Marquez did an excellent impression of Mayweather. Threw a few more punches but was easier to hit in return. PBF-Pacquiao would look a lot like that but be a shutout. Worst robbery I have seen in a long time. Not Pacquiao's fault but I was disappointed by "I thought I won the fight". Everybody saw his reaction at the bell. Worse though were Khan and the American commentator who immediately pretended they hadn't expected Marquez to get the result.
Mayweather is the most complete fighter in boxing today his adaptability makes him able to defeat most styles. Mayweather has faster hands, reflexes, better foot work, longer reach then Marquez. When Pac was whooping Cotto and Margarito's ass and boxing fans tried to say the were tailor made do to there come forward style and that JMM's footwork was the difference. Pac fans didn't want to hear it since Pac improved and was a new fighter and a monster at WW. JMM couldn't compete with the new Pac who only looked weaker vs JMM because Pac was cutting weight. Now JMM comes back at the age of 38 while having to go up 2 weight classes and completely obliterates the latter thought process. Cotto and Margarito were good but overrated fighters who made there name off of Arum making people believe Mayweather was ducking them.
And that's the only indicator? Plus it was a different kind of fight, against mayweather he was forced to attack, as Mayweather has bigger reach and would hit him with his jab to lure in. I thought it was a common knowledge that Marquez was in **** shape for mayweather fight. It shocks me that you guys are forcing me now to prove it. Can't be bothered really. It was obvious, just look at him and point me the fight in which he even physically looked that bad. Yeah reflexes have nothing to do with Fmj's Balance and doging tactics. Jesus Christ, we re not talking about alienated balance move, but using this move. Why do i need to point out the obvious. He's able to lead because of his superior speed, without it he would hit air, that is why i said that Floyd relies on Reflexes and speed more than on anything else. I said usually and then you come out with exceptions. Besides Ortiz fight was too short to really tell much. Honestly i was suprised with the success that Ortiz had with landing the punches. I thought he wouldnt touch Floyd Anyways This is not the level i would like to talk on. Im not really active here, and you reminded me why. Ignorance and agressivnes of fanboys really discourage me. Furthermore i got some stuff to do, so im out. Bye bye
That's not what I asked. Apparently I said Marquez is a better counter puncher than Mayweather, did I?
Mayweather walked MArquez down the last half of the fight. Where was he forced to attack? Find a quote from Marquez camp saying he was in **** shape. How do you throw 583 punches which is well above Marquez average and be in **** shape. So its Mayweatehr speed that makes him so accurate? Berto is faster then Mayweather. Why isnt he accurate like Mayweather? atsch YEs whenever Mayweather gets hit people are shocked. SO how does that correlate to Marquez being greaters skilled? Dont come back. :hi:
counterpunching is not a key part of mayweather's game? simply put, saying that proves YOU in fact, wont ever understand boxing. that's the cornerstone of his game. who is he, antonio margarito? styles make fights, that's without a doubt. it's simple to understand. A plus B doesn't necessarily equal C in the fight game, but the way juan manuel fought last night makes any objective fight fan feel like mayweather can potentially do really well against pacquiao.