Unfinished Business: Manny Pacquiao vs. Juan Manuel Marquez III & undercard RBR

Well, excuse the ever-loving **** out of me!!!!!!!!!!!

I saw it, but had already hit "submit" since the board was on such shaky legs and it was taking a whole minute for each reply to go through (sometimes requiring a browser Refresh or even hitting the back button to try and submit again). There's no way I was taking the time in the middle of the fight to go back and edit in "Oh btw, Marquez got in a really good right hand" at the end of that round's write-up. :nono

Sorry about slacking off there. :roll:

Besides, that shot didn't impact the scoring of the overall round. Beautiful punch, and foreshadowed many more from Marquez as he started taking command in the second two thirds of the match...but Pacquiao still won the 4th for me (and went up 39-37, which would wind up being his biggest lead of the night on my card).

 

Collated RBR:

 

Can't have been that bad to have scarfed down three pounds of it, huh? :hey

I'm heating up the leftovers now for an early supper (the other three pounds..)

I might re-watch the fight again...or wait until after so it doesn't spoil my appetite. :twisted:

 

Many wrote him off after losing to HH. Few of us held firm that he'd still become a champ. As you say there isn't any one thing to point to (other than the left hook) but he's got all the intangibles. Very good, underrated fighter.

Cruz can very easily rebound from this and obtain a title himself. I actually see Burgos-Cruz as being very much like Arce-Vaquez after a fashion. The young flashy Puerto-Rican prospect who'd kind of had everything their way up to that point in their career and almost been pampered is expected to easily outbox a rugged chug-and-slug Mexican (in Vazquez's case, an over-the-hill one) in a gimme - and gets WAY more than they bargained for.

I see both Vazquez and Cruz strapping some gold to their waist in the future. There are just certain styles they need to avoid (or at least learn not to flounder against). I'm still very high on the skillset and overall upside that both possess.

Yeah, Prescott brings an interesting configuration to the table: an almost iron jaw, physical dimensions that are going to be advantages against almost anybody (even upon moving up a division or two), and a solid 1-2 game. That package can certainly give almost everyone in the weight range some early trouble on any given night...but his fading will always bite him in the ass. Besides, there are many elites who wouldn't even need to rely on his poor stamina to beat him...so long as they could stand up to his shots.

Alvarado oozes heart and CHEEN.

I didn't make up CHEEN. Adamek did. Then BE and some others spread it.

Adamek put the jelly on the spoon. BE & co. shook the spoon to plop it down on the bread. Then I got in there with the back of the spoon and just sort of smushed it all around to spread it out to every edge of crust, see?

I'm not sure it quite cracks my top five just because 2011 has been so damn good with some surefire wars at the top like Marquez-Concepcion, Gonzalez-Vargas and Wolak-Rodriguez (and I still have yet to see Porpramook-Yaegashi) - but definitely top ten...and wherever people had DeMarco-Linares on their lists, Alvarado-Prescott had damn well better replace or leap-frog it. :deal Take away the dramatic last round of DeMarco-Linares and it isn't half the fight this was. PLUS, this one had an equally dramatic last round. (and the stoppages were comparable; if you're going to say one was "early" then so was the other...)

:nod

Casamayor retired in 2008. :verysad Can we just roll with that? Strike everything since from the record?

That was one of the biggest shocks, Marquez NEVER went down! :shock: This was supposed to be a slowed, over-bulked and just naturally deteriorated with age Marquez as well. If the previous better versions of JMM got dropped, surely so would last night's version if Pacquiao got in one good left...right? No! Pac got in several nasty straight lefts, and Marquez just wolfed them down. Incredible!

I also agree about Pac's boxing being improved. When has he ever used the right jab that much? (at least, referring to the first four rounds or so)

I suppose that's fair. That's only a two round shift from my score. I'm curious, did you give Pac the seemingly decisive (on many people's cards) 12th? :think

So you saw the overall momentum the same as me...Pac early and then Marquez sort of seizing the reins. I gave Pac three of the first four; you as well?

Obviously I gave JMM a larger share of the final 8, though. (in fact, seven of those rounds)

There isn't much to wonder about, IMO. Mayweather by right hand clinic (whether KO, TKO, or UD is a spin of the roulette wheel) has always been my impression of how Mayweather-Pacquiao would go. Sort of like last night, except without Pacquiao getting the few rounds he did.

As for Marquez getting a fourth try - I don't think he even wants it at this point. How could he possibly get motivated, knowing that he literally can't win unless he scores a knockout (which has now been proven beyond the shadow of a doubt) against a guy he's hit with his best stuff and not dropped?

 

It is frustrating beyond description.

Actually, this describes it pretty well: c

(in my early days of handling RBR duties, I actually punched out my girl's old laptop with a vicious straight right to the monitor side... Thing was a piece of **** anyway, and I did replace it with a much newer & nicer one...)


My trick (learned the hard way, after much heartbreak) is to type up the RBR posts for each round and then with about five seconds or so left on the round clock, I copy them and paste them into an open Notepad file that I've got waiting...then if I hit "submit" and it times out and the text entry screen is blank after hitting the browser's "back" button, it's right there to retrieve to paste back in and try again.

Had to do that about five times last night.

The rest, each post took upwards of a minute to go through after hitting submit.

 

It's the key to survival. Adapt or die!

(and trust me, "adapt" has only barely won out on a few occasions...you wouldn't believe how many nights have seen me swear off RBR forever...only to have me come back around the next day...)