***The official Pac/Marquez UNBIASED rewatch thread***

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by sosolid4u09, Nov 13, 2011.


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  1. bretchko

    bretchko ESB VET Full Member

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    :thumbsup:deal
     
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  2. thanosone

    thanosone Love Your Brother Man Full Member

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    **** I missed the 13th ground.
     
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  3. Post Box

    Post Box I'm back too, bitches Full Member

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    Sound on at 5 AM - Draw. Sound off - Marquez 7-5
     
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  4. bretchko

    bretchko ESB VET Full Member

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    Not bad :good
     
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  5. Symphenyceo

    Symphenyceo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    We score based on clean effective punching. Activity doesnt matter.

    I rewatched it twice and had it 8-4 and 9-3 JMM based on clean effective punching. Marquez also had the better defense and was the ring general.
     
    Symphenyceo, Nov 13, 2011
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  6. BodyBlaster

    BodyBlaster Well-Known Member Full Member

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  7. sosolid4u09

    sosolid4u09 4 8 15 16 23 42 banned Full Member

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    i agree and thats how i score.
    But the argument from pac fans seems to be marquez wasnt active enough and manny had far superior punch output
     
    sosolid4u09, Nov 13, 2011
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  8. SirKillalot

    SirKillalot Boxing-FAN Full Member

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    Last night I scored it 115-113 for Pacquiao:

    So, I watched it again. And I scored it 115-114 for Pacquaio this time.

    Pacquiao: He was aggressive, going forward. Outpunched Marquez, though Marquez had more of the cleaner hits, they came too rarely. Pacquiao made more damage with his offense. Marquez made it a fight, at the same time Pacquiao boxed below his level.


    Marquez: Clean and effective yes, but again. Too rarely and little damage. Was there ever a point in the fight where Marquez were the guy holding the center? Even if Marquez held his ground in many rounds, that doesn't mean that he won them. It's a difference being competitive and winning the round.

    Round 3,4,8,9,10 were awful close rounds.

    Pacquiao - Marquez
    10-9
    10-9
    9-10 (close round)

    10-9 (close round)
    9-10
    10-9 (Best round for Pacquiao)

    9-10 (Best round for Marquez)
    9-10 (close round)
    10-10 (close round)

    10-9 (close round)
    9-10
    10-9
     
    SirKillalot, Nov 13, 2011
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  9. tolindoy

    tolindoy UBESTRIDTE MESTER Full Member

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    Pac deserves to get most of the close rounds, you have to give credit to the guy who is risking and initializing the exchanges...Marquez was playing it safe, he was scared he'll make a mistake and get caught if he took a risk..I dont blame marquez, but imagine if pac is doing the same thing, back peddaling the whole time waiting for his opponent to make the first move, and we know marquez wont initiate, result will be a **** fight!!!

    people should stop acting like this never happened before,this is very common in judging close round fights, even UFC and MMA are using it too...FAVOR THE GUY WHO TOOK THE RISK, and i think thats fair enough!!!
     
    tolindoy, Nov 13, 2011
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  10. nervousxtian

    nervousxtian Trolljegeren Full Member

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    Except that's not really what happened. JMM lead just as much as Pac.. just because he fought going back doesn't mean he never was aggressive.

    You get no credit for coming forward and missing.
     
    nervousxtian, Nov 13, 2011
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  11. bandido

    bandido The Black Bandit Full Member

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    Marquez had 4 clear rounds, Pac 2 rounds. There were 6 close rounds. Fight could have gone either way depending on who you give the close rounds to. However, in many people's opinions, Marquez looked to have won the fight owing to having won more clear rounds. If you give all close rounds to Pac, then it's 116-112. Either way, it's not a robbery.
     
    bandido, Nov 13, 2011
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  12. Arcane

    Arcane One More Time Full Member

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    116-112 jmm.
     
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  13. Tekniqs

    Tekniqs Boxing Addict Full Member

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    7 to 5 rounds Marquez
     
    Tekniqs, Nov 13, 2011
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  14. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    8-4 juan manuel marquez..pac has problems with counter punchers..hate to see what faster fighter with good counter pucnhing and longer arms would do to him.
     
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  15. big_AL

    big_AL P4P #1 Full Member

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    i had it 117-112 marquez

    today i have it 117-111

    clear marquez win
     
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