Round by Round Compubox Stats: Marquez outlanded Pacquiao only in Round 8!!!

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  1. Leonit

    Leonit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    all people that use the compubox as a tool to score fights crack me up. Notice that the TS didn't answer any of the critics on this system. The people that counts the punches are just humans that the fight and push a button when they believe a blow has landed. When you have fighters with extremely fast hands there will be a lot of errors.
     
  2. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Just watched the fight again without predjudice and scored it 7 rounds to 5 for Marquez. I gave Pac round 12 which could have went either way. Thats just the way I see it. JMM was tatooing that ass.
     
  3. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    Exactly. Well put.

    Those dudes pushin' them buttons also work for HBO and appear to have been every bit as biased as the commentary team.
     
  4. Danmann

    Danmann Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm waiting to see fight on HBO, then I will see if it was robbery. But I 'll be damned the day I start going by compubox to see who really won a fight. It doesn't count hard punches vs average ones, or take into a account a punch that rocks a guy.
     
  5. this_and_that

    this_and_that Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Then you better get all cracked up with *****S because that's their bread and butter.
    To wit their favorite line "Numbers don't lie" (used both in compubox precentages and PPV sales).

    Because honestly, I hate all people using compubox to score a fight as well.
     
  6. Jeff Young

    Jeff Young Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm a big critic of Kellerman, but he was the only one that was decent last nght. You could get the sense that Max wanted to disagree with Lampley, Steward, and especially Lederman but he didn't want to **** them off. Merchant would have ass kissed Pacquiao as well if he was there.
     
  7. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    And that was one of Pac's better rounds, ironically. By better, it could have been scored a draw.
     
  8. this_and_that

    this_and_that Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He did.
    It doesn't mean they were as clean and crisp as that of JMM's punches, but he did.

    But since when was Pac known for clean punching unless he was fighting slowpokes along the lines of shot ODLH and Margarito anyway?
    His punches have always been sneaky and difficult to assess (let's ask Mosley).
    But if this picture should help, then that's how frequent and how hard he hit JMM:

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    Before you go all butt hurt and ****, I'm arguing the notion that Pac didn't land that much on JMM, which is false.
    This is not about the outcome of the fight.
     
  9. Leonit

    Leonit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    For me the Pac and Floyd nuthuggers are the two sides of a same coin :)
     
  10. the brown bomber

    the brown bomber Active Member Full Member

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    Right. Stats are one way to separate all the natural biases. Not that they are the definitive answer but the clear stat edge in favor of Pac should at the very least stop people from crying about a robbery. You still could think JMM won but should at least be able to see how close the fight was. JMM fans are acting completely irrational in their outrage.
     
  11. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    It's all good. but I don't really understand what the relevance of the picture is? To show swelling around Juan's eyes? Dude is 38 and went 12 with a massive puncher.....****, he looks pretty good if you ask me.

    From what I seen, Pac might get 43% for anything that didn't whiff air. Meaning they may have made contact to Juan's arms, gloves, etc.
     
  12. this_and_that

    this_and_that Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The picture shows that Pac indeed connected a lot.
    They weren't clean, but he did. That's all.
    It could be because of JMM's age or Pac's PED's or what not, but he did connect comparable numbers to JMM.
    Take note I said comparable numbers, not comparable quality.
    Come to think of it, isn't this the first time that Pac connected more than JMM accdg to compubox?

    But yes, JMM's my new hero. He looked like a f*cking bull in the ring last night if you ask me.
     
  13. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    NACHO told Marquez not to engage all night! Pac won the fight, but it was boring......................Pac was the aggressor, hope Void will get courage to fight Pac now, but he still will not. Looks like a rematch in May.
     
  14. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    Maybe one of my favorite moments of last night was Juan bein' like "She-it, if ya'll wanna talk to me, I'ma be in the back with this big ass sombrero over my nuts"....:p
     
  15. this_and_that

    this_and_that Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Classic.:rofl
    Funny thing was, only a few people noticed that he *probably* only had a sombrero "on" during the interview.
    That was badass.:bbb