Marquez Defeating Pacquiao DOES NOT Indicate Pac Loses to Floyd- A Technical Summary

Wow, excellent analysis. I always have kept in mind the point that you brought up months ago in pointing out Floyd's lack of lateral movement and his lack of ability to move at the waist when it comes to defense.
This is a much better in depth analysis than I have read actually anywhere
on line.
lol at styles vs labels... I agree.

 

what i noticed is that all floyd nuthuggers disagree and most neutral fans agreed to the post! why is that? hmmmm......

 

i think one difference as well is marquez is a master in fighting southpaws. while floyd is not..

 

Lmfao..floyd is great at fighting southpaws!!

Floyd will beat pac easier than jmm..

Amatuer hooking pac does..give i up *******s....floyd longer arms and better footwork will make pacquiao look pathetic..lmfao..pac and his short jab will find that mayweather will make him pay everytime over the top.

Floyd ko pac in 7..maybe 8.floyd can "time" better than jmm and that's what jmm was so effective at last night!

*******s are pathetic-ban urself losers! Ur all mighty fukin hero got exposed last night!lmfao

 

excellent post

 

Ya..pac has sloppy footwork...floyd will school him and show him how a professor does it..pac is garbage at the technical side..floyd should ko him in 7..maybe 8

 

Mayweather against Southpaws;

Corely - Won 11 or 12 rounds and scored multiple KDs

Mitchell - Won every round and scored a K0

Judah - Won between 8-10 rounds, completely shutdown Judah after 4 rounds

Ortiz - Won every round and knocked Ortiz out

Marquez;

Pacquaio - Could've won all 3 bouts, but won none, and lost several rounds

Casamayor - Tied on two scorecards before scoring the KO in the 11th

Jarca - Won every round and recorded a stoppage in the 9th, did get face busted up though

Gainer - Won just about every round and got a TD

Both guys are good against Southpaws. I don't know how Marquez is better against Southpaws when only Southpaw has even clearly won a round against Mayweather.

 

I agree in the sense that May and JMM counter differently but Mayweather is a superior counter puncher in the sense that he can do what JMM does by throwing while moving laterally but he hasnt had to recently because of how fast he is, how quickly he can figure out the timing of the opponents jab or any punch in general, and his superior reach to almost any fighter in his weight class.

Instead of fighting Laterally Floyd leans back to avoid any punch (most of the time a jab)
and drills his famous pull right counter into opponents faces:
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this method > jmm stepping back as it doesn't allow refs to judge the aggressiveness of either fighter but that fact that one was punched and another wasn't.

Floyd check left hook is his best weapon when laterally moving as he throws it stepping back and then when it lands with devastating power he jumps to the left like a matador in a bull fight.
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Floyds jab to the body also nullifies his need to fight laterally as he uses his reach, speed, and accuracy to pit the jab into the opponents stomach stopping them in their tracks. Thiss also opens up the opponents guard and leaves them open for right hand leads. which all take away from and opponents desire to come forward.
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You discredited the reach assuming Floyd would use it without the proper foot/body work to make Pac miss while tagging him. I dont like comparing fighters like this but if Jmm could make pac miss as easily as he did in many moments last night, then floyd who has superior reflexes and timing than jmm would do it easier and more often.

Floyd unlike marquez can fight on the inside and still make pac miss. and when pac does land in CQC it wont be big punches unless it very early in the fight before Floyd could judge the timing of Pac's punches ie. mosley

(and most pac fans while call me a ***** for this) Regardless of the range Floyd is superior to pac offensively. His accuracy and quickness is unlike any fighter Pac has ever faced.

 

PLUS 2ND CAREER FIGHT VS SANDERS-TOOK 4 OF 4 ROUNDS:thumbsup

 

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just a few thoughts

1) Juan uses lateral movement to create angles for his own combos and protect himself from return fire. Floyd doesn't need to do so because he's mastered the art of the clinch, prefers to throw 1-2 punches at a time, and has his shoulder roll D. Hit and clinch is something Floyd is very good at. Clinching wasn't employed much against Oscar due to Oscar's huge weight and height advantage, it's tough to clinch someone that much bigger and taller than you. Floyd can easily get emmanuel into the clinches, even Juan who isn't known for clinching had his clinches here and there. Mayweather even rearranges angles in the clinches.

2) Oscar was able to continuously back Floyd up with his size advantage and by stepping in with his ATG jab. Last night showed that emmanuel has a toy jab and definitely has no size advantage over Floyd. emmanuel would be forced to try to fire his way in with a left hand, which is much more obvious and exposes you more than a jab.

3) Floyd is good at fighting against the ropes as shown in your gif where he clocks Oscar with those 2 rights. He also likes to lure guys in towards the rope and check hook before he even touches the ropes.

4) Floyd can still use lateral movement if needed. It was on clear display in Mayweather-Hatton round 9. He shields himself behind his shoulder and pivots away. Hatton like emmanuel is a short stocky aggressive guy, and Floyd's lateral movement had success on him.

 

mayweather hasn't signed a contract he doesn't share the same confidence as his fans