The 3rd one. First two fights were very close. Third one was competitive but clear for Marquez. Alexander-Kotelnik was even worse though. He had it 117-111. Seriously though, what is Ledermans problem? I know boxing is very subjective but he often seems to be out of step with many fans.
Another thing I didn't like about Lederman on Saturday was how he was desperate to convince everyone that his way of scoring is the only correct way. To be honest, I kind of agreed with him on a few points but to be that narrow minded in all 3 fights was ridiculous. Strangely though one of the judges in each of their 3 fights has had the same scorecard as him. One has always had the same as mine too (bar the first fight where it was apparently incorrectly scored 113-113, when it should have technically been 113-112)
I was 116-112 for JMM, thought that when Pac was coming forwards he missed way to much, particularly early and middle rounds, which made his aggression harder to score positively. I am a Pac fan and although I like both of these guys I thought Pac would win at the weight they were fighting at and was happy with that. Having seen the fight, though, I am gutted that JMM didn't get the nod. I think that some of the 10-2 scores are way off, it is not like JMM dominated, but for me he won by a few clear rounds on accuracy, footwork, hurtful shots landed etc... I just think he won the fight. Gutted.
Marquez was and is magnificent. PBF will stop Pacman if the fight is ever made. You will notice as well that when Morales boxed him he clearly beat Pacman it was when he chose to brawl he had problem.
Journalists: Lem Satterfield, Ringtv.com: 117-111, Juan Manuel Marquez Ron Borges, Boston Herald: 117-112, Marquez Chris Mannix, Sports Illustrated: 116-112, Marquez Tim Smith, New York Daily News: 116-112, Marquez Mike Coppinger, RingTV.com: 115-113, Marquez Bill Dwyre, Los Angeles Times: 115-113, Marquez Norm Frauenheim, www.15rounds.com: 115-113, Marquez Ryan Maquinana, ***********.com/CSNBAYAREA.com: 115-113, Marquez Lance Pugmire, Los Angeles Times: 115-113, Marquez Bob Velin, USA Today: 115-113, Marquez George Willis, New York Post: 115-113, Marquez Jerry Izenberg, Philadelphia Inquirer: 115-114, Marquez Sean Sullivan, Boxing Digest: 115-114, Manny Pacquiao Steve Carp, Las Vegas Review-Journal: 114-114 Tim Dahlberg, Associated Press: 114-114 Bryan Graham, Sports Illustrated: 114-114 Kevin Iole, Yahoo!Sports: 114-114 Kieran Mulvaney, ESPN.com/Reuters: 114-114 Dan Rafael, ESPN.com: 114-114 Rick Reeno, ***********.com: 114-114
i originally scored it for marquez at the time.i was watching it for entertainment and was caught up in the excitement.i watched it again coldly and analytically with the sound off and scored it round by round as i was watching it as 116-115 pacquiao but feel it could have gone either way.
Thanks for that :good Some more... Steve Kim: 115-113 Marquez Gabriel Montoya: 116-112 Marquez Thomas Hauser: 115-114 Marquez
bunce had it 117 111 marquez collins had it 118 113 marquez andy kerr thought the ref played a blinder