Running is Great, Why, Rhythm, Coordination, Change of Tempo, Cardio, Discipline. But it must be done in a framework, of what you want to achieve. Problems by over doing it, Impact, Stress, Wrong Technique, Gait, injury. Use to work at the same time on the Track as Seb Coe, what His Dad told me in conversations, was interesting. This was in the mid 80s. Peter restricted Sebs running to 200 metre sprints x 10 in 22 secs each go, most sessions. Plus stating most of the work was done in the Gym .
Keyboard warriors are badass. Can't prove your point so say something stupid. Good job you bad man you It's ok, mate, you're out of your depth.
As keyboard warriors go you're p4p bro. Been in a fair few wars here, haven't you? :bbb Eleven pages and the fella that started this thread only wanted to know what time to go for his run lol.
Agree with much of that. It's all a definition argument though - A runner such as Seb Coe or any decent Track athlete doesn't view their slow/easy runs as "training". It's viewed as recovery and sustaining fitness in between hard sessions in the main (different objectives at different times of the year). I can guarantee that Seb ran slow or easy almost every day and twice some days through the year. In fact I know he did.
If telling someone they're wrong or laughing at a guy for talking utter bull**** makes me a keyboard warrior, then yes. But then this is a forum and everybody has an opinion, whether right or wrong there's always a debate. I don't really see that as being a keyboard warrior, throwing out threats and saying silly things like "Wish we could get into the ring and i will knock both of you guys out with your training methods that are laughable" is the **** a keyboard warrior spews out.
Lol this thread has got out of hand. You have normally very good and definitely knowledgeable posters talking about long runs in a vacuum as if that's all they would train with. Your boxing training schedule should directly match the attributes required to be successful at boxing - speed, strength, endurance etc. The training methods you then use to maximise these attributes should be seen as "tools" and combined to have the desired physiological adaptations. If you decide Roadwork is making up part of your schedule then the types of roadwork used should match your goals and other training. Yes, I agree intervals would be the best way to increase aerobic endurance. However, the slow run still has it's place. A few typical scenarios when you would/may use a slow run over short intervals is: 1) The Boxer is overweight and out of shape and or/just starting (or has bad technique). 2) Recovery days. 3) Trying to get increases in VO2max through increased mitochondria and capiliarisation (only happens at long duration low intensity aerobic work). 4) Help keeping muscle and bulk down after weight sessions. I could list quite a few more areas a slow run may help, but the general point is that to just outright dismiss slow runs is wrong. Every training method has its place and it how and when you use it that's important.
I agree completely, everything has its time and place in a training program. My point was that long slow runs aren't a necessity for boxers at a decent level of fitness. The best thing about long runs to me is the fact that they help you to burn lipids more efficiently for fuel instead of glycogen and the boosts in the neurotransmitters Serotonin and Dopamine. Long runs are great. They do little for fitness though unless you're at a very low level of fitness. I agree with your first 2 points, but on your third point you say that the effects on mitochondria and capiliarisation only occur in low intensity training, that's not true. You get those same benefits from interval training, Interval training improves VO2max more than slow endurance training can. More important than VO2max for endurance performance is the anaerobic threshold, if you have a VO2max of 65 ml/kg/min and your threshold is at 70% of VO2max and then you have someone with a VO2max of 55 ml/kg/min but their threshold is at 90% of VO2max, the guy with the lower VO2max can sustain the higher intensity for the race and would win with everything else being equal. Interval training at high intensities is the best way to raise that threshold as well as the best way to raise VO2max (which can only be raised to a certain extent and is very dependant on size and genetics). Your fourth point I don't understand, long slow runs aren't going to do much to your muscle unless you do them on an empty stomach, which wouldn't be a smart thing to do. Some recent research actually suggests that performing aerobic exercise before weight training can actually increase muscular hypertrophy. Doing that would likely be detrimental to strength training however.
Well getting into the ring can prove a point also is not a threat. Somebody claims his training method is better than the other guys. So you put them to the test and see who come out on top. I know a lot of variables there like talent level and other **** but you get my point. He virus have you seen Oldanier Solis and Chris Areola if you would be recommending a training regiment for them two boxers would you be able to get them in top shape for a 12 round fight without using any running. :hat
One of my lecturers who used to be a pro bodybuilder mentioned it, being an ex bodybuilder and a bit of a nerd he follows all the latest studies.. I did look at it at the time but I'm not sure what database I used... I'll chase it up if you're keen mate :good
i think it has something to do with increased hgh production, because most muscles are activated with cardio your body releases enough HGH from the putitary gland for all the muscles. this leaves you with more hgh then needed if your just doing 10 mins of cardio and working out your back. ive also heard that light cardio before training also helps with recovery due to the same reason as above. but in both senses its not 30 mins of cardio or an hour of cardio you really only need 5-10 mins of light cardio, which isnt really going to effect your training too much. plus 5 mins of light cardio is a great way to warm up.
