Marquez Defeating Pacquiao DOES NOT Indicate Pac Loses to Floyd- A Technical Summary

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  1. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    .... lets just not use this as an another excuse for this fight to not happen.

    Juts let it happen and prove all the empty theories in the ring.
     
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  2. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    Pac take the tests and we can get the fight may 5 2012
     
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  3. motorcity

    motorcity Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Floyd is already fightin in February

    [ame]http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh6R04P680Z4pt1vY8[/ame]
     
    motorcity, Nov 14, 2011
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  4. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    MAN..I SAW THIS ALREADY....

    NO WHERE DID HE SAY THE MAY 5 DATE WAS OFF THE TABLE...

    AGAIN..IF PAC WANT IT, HE JUST GOTTA TAKE THE TESTS N COME OUT AND AGREE TO THE MAY 5 DATE..

    THEN THEY CAN NEGOTIATE WHERE THEY LEFT OFF BEFORE PAC "ALL OF A SUDDEN" SAID HE WOULDNT TAKE THE TESTS, JUST A FEW WEEKS AFTER ALREADY AGREEING TO EM.

    :deal
     
    sdsfinest22, Nov 14, 2011
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  5. Gunns4hire

    Gunns4hire Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree.....the fight needs to happen for the sake of every ******* suffering from dontknowshitaboutboxing itis!
     
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  6. Toopretty

    Toopretty Custom made Full Member

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    This thread never had legs. There is one question that Pac was exposed with his last two fights. How does he close the distance to get his punches off? Marquez out manuevered him by just not coming forward. *******s talk about Pac's in and out but it only works if he is landing his lead punch. When he misses he is off balance all over the place and easy as **** to counter for a counter puncher let alone Floyd who can bait fighters into doing this. Floyd sets up his counters masterfully. He hooks to the body against southpaws. Pac could not even cut the ring off and bully his way through a lightweight. Diaz was able to bully Marquez. Casamayor was able to outbox him. JMM knocked both out eventually but they were both winning the fight or dishing more punishment than Pac at welter. It is simple as ****.
     
    Toopretty, Nov 14, 2011
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  7. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    What do you expect from stupid floydiots?

    Jmm fights differently from jmm. Nowhere does fraud fights similar to jmm. Watch frauds last 5 fights and you can see massive difference.

    Even against very limited brawler like hatton or past his prime Hoya, he was punched repeatedly. Even a past prime Mosley almost knocked down gayweather, a fighter who gassed out after 6 minutes of fighting.

    Besides, if he is so sure, then the fight could have been done a long time ago.
     
    pejevan, Nov 14, 2011
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  8. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    You've completely disregarded the numerous examples I've put forth that show Mayweather prefers to fight in straight lines and almost never pivots out to change the angle against his opponent, which was the absolute key for Marquez's success, along with feinting and shifting fluidly between aggressor and counter-puncher several times within the same round throughout the fight. Diaz was a conventional swarmer, and Nacho told Marquez to give Casamayor the first few rounds. Marquez has improved his defense against pressure as shown in the Katsidis fight from round 3 on, and Pacquiao is not similar to those fighters.

    Floyd can land a left to the body. Congratulations. All I'm saying is that if Floyd beats Manny, he's going to do something very different than what Marquez did because they are completely different styles. Pacquiao won't have to cut the ring off if Floyd doesn't move laterally as well as Pac intends to.

    What you're doing is diminishing two great fighters just so that you can parade the concept that Floyd is supreme. Well go make a thread of your own because I'm here to discuss tactics and all you do is come in here with your nuthuggery and criticize theories you don't have the eye to counter with any sophisticated post. Boxing is more complicated than you think, and Marquez does a lot of small nuanced maneuvers from the outside and inside that Floyd will never do. Accept it and move on with your life, and if Floyd wins, it will have invalidated nothing about the mature technical talk exchanged between a few good posters in this thread.

    Now peace out and **** you to anyone else who wants to turn this forum into a cheerleading circle jerk where real fans can't talk straight boxing without getting trolled every post.
     
    Bogotazo, Nov 14, 2011
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  9. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This.

    Mayweather KOs Pacquiao and that's why Bobfather Arum is already trying to line up a 4th Marquez fight.
     
    victor879, Nov 14, 2011
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  10. Whipdatass

    Whipdatass Boxing Junkie banned

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    Floyds is going to beat Pacquiaos ass, and I'm willing to bet real cash that he stops Pacquiao too.
     
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  11. Aiolos

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    Mayweather can stand in front of Pacquiao and tax that ass.
     
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  12. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    just goes to show how limited emmanuel really is and how well he's been matched recently
     
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  13. Whipdatass

    Whipdatass Boxing Junkie banned

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    The reason why Pacquiao will lose by stoppage to Floyd is because Pacquiao will force that issue to happen himself.
     
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  14. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes ..... bravo!!! lets do it!!!
     
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  15. Whipdatass

    Whipdatass Boxing Junkie banned

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    The T.S. is totally confused. You have your styles outlook totally wrong. These aren't play fight robots that you play with where you can create their punches. Saying Floyd a pot shot guy or a counter puncher is a slap in the face to boxing fans. Floyd will stand right in front of Pacquiao because he's fast too. Floyd will break Pacquiao down and stop him.
     
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