My card: 5-3-4 Marquez. My thoughts: You're all crazy if you think JMM was robbed.

No we will not say Pac-Mayweather. We will see Marquez-Pac IV with Marquez getting robbed again.

 

Yes, you can have even rounds. One guy must get 10 points, but that doesn't mean both can't. For some odd reason, tie rounds are frowned upon. They shouldn't be, you'd get fairer scores rendered if a judge is giving rounds he can't discern between fighters tied as opposed to awarding the round to someone probably less deserving.

 

Not true. Who says some of the Pacquiao rounds or the Marquez rounds weren't also swing rounds? There were A LOT of close rounds in that fight, and that's why everybody is ending up with so many different scores. Sub-consciously, I think Marquez' performance made a lot of us feel good and that's why most people scored the fight for him.

 

like I said in my thread if fighter A wins 7 rounds definitively but doesn't get the decision then its a robbery. if he wins 4 definitive rounds as the case was with jmm and 0 pac then u got 8 other rounds being scored on the judges preference which they clearly showed for pacquiao. I had jmm winning but it was a close fight and I could see a reaching case for pacquiao but this was not a robbery. everyone is just too emotional about jmm not being given the monumental upset decision and pacquiao being carried again by media hype.

 

I'm just speaking frankly on his perspective of the fight. I'm not speaking generally, assuming he's wrong if I'm using his logic to try and argue against his point. My judging of the fight will be different. Sure, we would see different ideas of Marquez, Pac, and swing rounds. However, I think the consistent census appears to be that Marquez won his rounds more clearly, and I think most posters, particularly those who scored the fight for Marquez felt he won more rounds more clearly. Again, though, I've seen a few score the fight for Pac, although I've had trouble agreeing with quite a bit on their cards.

 

We'll have to agree to disagree. I see the politics and magnitude of such an event not even allowing Marquez to get the fair judging he deserved. That's what I felt he was robbed of. The situation wouldn't allow for Marquez to win. Call it corruption, Arum, Nevada keeping their cash-cow protected.

 

how in the hell do yu have tha many even rounds lol

 

fair enough. but I do see something very shady about the 116-112 scorecard. the 12th round was one of the close rounds and he gave it to jmm. that must of meant he gave one of jmm's definitive rounds to pacquiao.

 

there are many rounds where it looked even, but judges do consider activity and ring generalship which I found Pacquiao wasn't lacking.

Of-course number of hits and knockdowns are taken into consideration first before awarding the round to any particular fighter. Activity and Ring Generalship must have really been the key factors why Pac out pointed Marquez

 

I personally thought Manny won three rounds convincingly while Marquez won three rounds convincingly. (Marquez won his more convincingly) That leaves six swing rounds. I gave three to Marquez and three to Manny. Thus, I ended up with a draw. I just have a problem when people say there's no way Manny won the fight.

This kind of reminds me of Floyd vs. Castillo I. It was close and could have gone either way, but given the nature of the fighters, most people go with a Castillo victory.

You can't help but feel for all the hard work Marquez put in to make the fight happen and perform as well as he did. People think he deserves this kind of victory for all of that. However, that doesn't justify people saying that there's no possible way Manny could have taken the fight.

 

I could not find one round to give to pacquiao convincingly but I do see how someone can score it a draw or even for pacquiao. everyone crying robbery was just too emotional about the decision which is why the word doesn't really have any merit anymore over here.

 

Everyone always calls robbery when this happens. The underdog performs well and doesn't get the decision, you better believe ESB will call it a robbery.

 

The majority of the rounds I found to be incredibly difficult to score.

There were long stretches in rounds where both guy weren't landing anything clean.

I scored the fight 7-5 for Pac but 6 or 7 of the rounds could have easily gone the other way.

Not a robbery by any means.