Nazim Richardson Explains Why He Thinks Marquez Is The Better Fighter

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  1. tito44

    tito44 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What getting a guy two and a half weight classes bigger than you beating him, and I don't rememeber seeing that fat man do anything. I saw Hopkins do it.

    Nevertheless, the guy really is just odd, and the blueprint stuff was just ridiculous, concering Manny.
     
  2. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    He's the better boxer, but I dont' neccesarily believe that qualifies him as being a better fighter. How would Juan Manuel Marquez fair against the majority of Pacquiao's competition spanning the last 2 years? Not very well in my estimation. Cotto would hurt JMM.

    Styles make fights.
     
  3. SweetHome_Bama

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    I wonder how the Cotto fight would have been without the catchweight?
     
  4. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Pacquiao is a physical Phenomena (I think PED aided) which is why he's destroyed slow come foward fighters that he's been matched against at Welter, but there is no doubt here who the better P4P fighter is, and thats clearly Juan Manuel Marquez.


    There are alot of parrallels to make with JMM/Pac and Holyfield/Tyson.

    Like Pac, Tyson was a physical phenomena, he'd blast away and destroy bigger but lesser skilled Heavyweights in a fashion that Holyfield could'nt possibly.
    To get the same results vs some of the Heavyweights that Tyson destroyed, Holyfield would have to work and dig in to chop the same tree down.


    ......but what are the results when you match both to a capable skilled Heavyweight??????
    The result is that Holyfield is better all around equipped to handle the different styles and beats more quality Heavyweights than Tyson does.

    Tyson destroys B level competition by loses to the A level.
    Holyfield has to work to beat B level competiton, but shines regardless against the A level.

    This same parralel holds true with Marquez and Pacquiao.

    Marquez=Holyfield
    Pacquiao=Tyson


    Marquez and Holyfield are by far superior fighters.
     
  5. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Nazim didn't invent this, he picked up that Pacquaio had problems when Marquez circled to Pac's right

    He can beat Cotto, Marquez could also hurt Cotto and he'd be ableto outbox him and land much more than Cotto would
     
  6. BodyBlaster

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    In a way he added to what Morales already did. Morales could have made their first fight even more lop sided, but at times got involved in a shoot out. The Mexican fighters are bred that way so cant help it.
    If you circle away from Pacs power hand, get your foot placement right, and fire right hands, he doesnt know how to ajust.
    You jab jab jab, as your moving, and when Pacs ready to fire, get the right hand in.
    As Nazim said, Marquez biggest problem in the 1st too fights was his own aggression made him deviate from this. He got involved and noone wins a shoot out with Pac.
    In the 3rd fight, he just did the same things all night long, and neither Pac or Roach knew what to do.
     
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    Gesta Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Plus I thought MAB beat JMM, when MAB was past his best.
     
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    :nut :lol:
     
  9. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    When somebody beats Pac & Floyd @ WW and it is etched in stone then these fraud trainers can talk blueprints.
    Until then show me the mutha****in Car Fax.
     
  10. PityTheFool

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    Does he have a point about no one winning a decision against Pacquaio though?
     
  11. carlos200587

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    i thought he talked alot of sence
     
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    :lol:


    Stupid Ariza. I wonder what he thinks of his comment now. Manny is superstitious wait till he gets a hold of this.
     
  13. Dunk87

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    At no point did he actually say he discovered it. He said he noticed a flaw with Manny's work which I if I am right I think even I no what it is. He said when Shane made adjustments after getting hurt then people will realise that the blue print for how to beat him was there.

    P.S the guy is right on the money... Manny = explosive and dangerous, Floyd = the most talented, JMM = the most technically gifted boxer
     
  14. FORMIDABLE

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    If Pac can hold his own in three close fights vs the guy Richardson is calling the best technical boxer around, what does that make Pacquiao? Why all this talk as if he's been exposed as a bum? If Marquez was so far superior as Nazim is claiming he'd have beaten him decisively in those three fights. Marquez's technical ability and counter punching are better, does that automatically make him the better fighter? He won't go down as the greater fighter. Marquez will be remembered as that one guy Pacquiao couldn't look like Superman against.
     
  15. Dunk87

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    Point 1. He did decisively beat him in the first fight.. figure it out.

    Point 2. Do you even comprehend the distinctions that the guy was making. Pac is a great fighter he didn't dispute this, but technically JMM is probably the most sound boxer in the world. You do understand thee are different types of fighter yes?