"Fighting Floyd is a case of cold hard reality"

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by bretchko, Nov 17, 2011.


  1. bretchko

    bretchko ESB VET Full Member

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    Floyd is a bad MF he is in and out so fast that Marquez had a hard time countering him.That was the prob with Pac he stayed in the pocket to long trying to power punch (he has the footwork to get in annd out but did not use it)
    Unlike Marquez Floyd kinda lets you finish your work a bit before he counters and that could make for a very interesting fight with Pac...:think
    Yes / No ? .............thoughts


    This fight is just as interesting to me as before the Pac Marquez 3 fight
     
  2. horst

    horst Guest

    Floyd is a career-strategizing risk-weighing safety-first ***** in boxing terms. Always has been, always will be.
     
  3. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    " he is picking him apart like a surgeon", lampley has cool lines sometimes, but yeah pac needs a ko to win I think, it certainly looks that way, which is dissapointing.
     
  4. Arcane

    Arcane One More Time Full Member

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    With Mayweather's skills Pac would be spitting his mouth piece out every other round.
     
  5. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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  6. bretchko

    bretchko ESB VET Full Member

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    Wouldnt be that easy for him........ think with your brain and not your heart:good
     
  7. Mrtibbs

    Mrtibbs Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ok just think about this.....

    Imagine if Marquez had Floyds hand speed for their third fight.

    Sorry but if a 38 year old Marquez can do that to Pac with his hand speed, imagine what Floyd can do.

    He wont get hit, he will pick him apart and score a wide, wide UD.

    Marquez is a great boxer, but Floyds skills are god given.
     
  8. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Floyd catches pac coming in.
     
  9. Goro

    Goro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's all about the footwork of Marquez, take away that and give him more hand speed , he would be knocked out within 6 rounds.

    Marquez is fast with his counters, you act like he's Margarito.

    Hatton won two rounds on a judges scorecard by just closing the distance on Floyd and barely landing anything.
     
  10. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    hatton has different type of footwork than Manny and he knows how to cut off the ring.
    All hatton's footwork did toward the end of the fight was run himself into check hooks and lead rights
     
  11. motorcity

    motorcity Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It wasn't that hard of reality for Castillo and De La Hoya.
     
  12. JASPER

    JASPER Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I am a fan of Pacs (and PBF). that in and out movement (bounce) would have been Pacs big downfall . . . I HATE it and it can easily be timed. if he did it against JMM or PBF he would be beat badly. That style does work against lesser boxers but not against great ones like PBF and JMM. JMM and PBF have superior footwork and are better at controlling space and distance (this is something SSM did but was to shot or injured to let his hands go and it would have made that fight more interesting).

    Pac is technically a better fighter than he was in their last match-up but it was like trying to out man-oeuvre a chessmaster. Manny needed to be a battering ram not a swashbuckler.
     
  13. JASPER

    JASPER Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Castillo one was a close fight because of an injury which was later erased when PBF came back and soundly beat him in a deserved rematch (its funny how people tend to forget that . . . same with Bute-Andrade)

    I thought he soundly beat Oscar and so did all of Oscars fans in the bar that i went to who sat silent for the second half of the fight . . . even Oscars big name could buy a win in that fight! Do not forget that Oscar had every advantage going into that fight (weight, gloves, ring size . . . you name it)
     
  14. Windigo

    Windigo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm getting sick and tired of this cut off the ring line. Go to your gym grab a good southpaw with equal or better reach and see just how easy it is to cut off the ring. You will be eating lefts all night long. The open angles between the two stances makes even trying to cut off the ring dangerous. You will walk right into their rights and lefts respectively. Winky Wright has made a great career off of tagging orthodox fighters who are dumb enough to try.

    JMM was looking to land the right. As a southpaw even trying to cut off the ring in that situation is down right stupid. Right hands are hard enough to avoid without walking right into them.
     
  15. JASPER

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    I never want to see them fight (PBF-Pac) . . . I like both guys. Floyd would never let manny get inside on a regular basis to do any major damage. Manny really needs to work on his head movement to get inside, his silly bounce will be timed all night and will never get into a rhythm and never "get off". PBF out Marquezed Marquez so he really is Manny worse nightmare.

    being a fan of both guys I never ever wanted to see that fight, I would constantly go back in forth in my mind who i thought would win . . . and did not like either scenario. However, increasingly I have been thinking that PBF wins and this last fight just reinforced that notion