Unbiased RBR scoring in slow-motion of Pac-JMM III

:rofl

 

dangerousity's incomplete compubox (rounds 1,3,4,8,9,10,11,12)

Fighter---Jabs----Power---Total
Pac-------36--------60-------96
JMM-------27-------62-------89


Note: 2,5,6, & 7 are not accounted. HBO's compubox for these 4 rounds are:

Fighter---Jabs----Power---Total
Pac--------22-------37-------59
JMM-------8---------34------42

I then compared dangerousity's compubox to HBO's compubox, for just the rounds 1,3,4,8,9,10,11, & 12. The overall numbers for their stats are about: 86.8% identical.

 

hey not that hard to do, tell your clan to stfu too!!

 

2.06 - Unless HBO and Primetime has different timing for the round, JMM didnt even throw a bloody punch.

2.04 - How can you possibly tell if that punch landed or not as the angle shows the back of JMM and Pac looks to have backed away from it?

1.47 - Pac catches him clean with a str8 left whilst slipping JMM's jab and you're counting that for JMM? atsch

1.42 - Already recorded on my count so no disagreement here.

1.41 - Kindly point out exactly which one of the flurry connected? Cos I've watched it 3 times, paused, slo-mo x5 and I see blocked and missed punches.

0.56 - Touched? Pac moved away from it, and even if it did "touch" wtf do you think this is, amateur boxing? Pac moved away from it, and if it did land a kiss to the cheek would have more impact. WTF is wrong with you? If we were counting "touches", Pac would have about 100+ more landed of punches that grazed past JMM's head as JMM slipped away from them.

0.51 - From that angle how can you even tell if it landed? It looks like it was blocked and didnt have any significant effect on Pac.

0.44 - so now hitting the arm counts? atsch

0.29 - scored that already

0.26 - so again hitting the arm counts? Jesus. I guess Floyd lost all his fights, all those punches that hit him on his shoulder counts.

0.01 :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl So when JMM was loosing balance and flailing about hitting Pac's arm all those punches count. OMG.


I dont know if you're trolling or not. 14 power punches for JMM landed on that round did you say? You are whats wrong with people who cry robbery. You see what you see.

And for the record, I really dont care that you and you're friend are former amateur boxers, as if it gives your extremely bias punch count anymore credibility. I am an active amateur boxer, and if you dont believe me you may see my posts in the training forum for over 6 years now. As for your friend being a serious fan, care? Harold Lederman is a veteran judge sat ringside and he scored it for Pac, is his score anymore credible?

 

I thought 4/9/10 could have gone either way. I gave all to JMM but wouldnt have a problem with someone saying otherwise, specially for people who watched it live in real time. Hence why a draw is a good result and a win for Pac isn't far fetched.

 

Not to bring Floyd into a Pac thread, cause that fights dead and buried (Arum mainly, but other members of team Pac too), but this fight was literally 10 times more of a robbery than Floyd-Castillo 1.

So if your a ******* that likes to say Floyd lost to Castillo the first time, then you have to say Pac lost this one.

This was much worse.

 

115 - 113 or 116 - 112 for JMM are pretty much the only realistic scores you could give this fight if you are not completely brain damaged.

Now lets say you are drunk and have poor vision and maybe got distracted frequently in the background that + with the prior mentioned brain damage i could MAYBE just MAYBE see a draw and then id still slap you over the head.

People that are so incomptent that they scored this for Pac should just quit watching boxing all together because you idiots are the main reason fighters get robbed and the people robbing them get away with it.

I predicted and was convinced Pac would win big and i was hoping he would so the fight with Mayweather would be a once in a life time proportion but he just did not.

Several of my friends who are giant Pac nuthuggers still acknowledged that JMM did enough to win and were just shocked (although happy) when Pac got the win.

I also agree with the previous poster that this was FAR worse than Floyd vs Castillo (although Castillo won that one as well)

 

116-114 jmm

 

No, I said "landed" shots. I never said POWER anything. You're so desperate to be correct that you're not even reading carefully. So how much else have you missed?

As for the rest, you must literally be watching from a different angle. Were there different cameras, or did all the worldwide broadcasts tap off one feed? Does anyone know?

As for hitting an arm: It is my understanding that in the pros this counts as a landed blow. It's a body shot that weakens the opponent. Even if you took these off the stats, JMM would still have won the round, but I'm surious if anyone knows the "official" rule on this. There doesn't really seem to BE a unified set of rules for the pros, which maybe is part of the problem.

 

Wathc the British broadcast. I have it paused in front of me right now. 2:07 going into 2:06, Manny clocks JMM flush on the jaw with a really goof left hook. (right after JMM missed with his own) You really don't see this in your version?

-Or are you confused because I was off by 1/2 second?

You can see Pac's head flinch slightly away from the punch. You can also tell from how far away Pac was, and by the fact that JMM's arm movement stops short. Clearly something slowed it's momentum & in a jerky way. You've really been in the ring, and you can't see this? Hmmm.
Well, it IS the least absolute one on my list, though I'm still sure of it.
You wanna' take it off the list? Fine. 4 - 13 in favor of JMM.

 

WTF is wrong with YOU? We're talking about compu-box here. Pure punch stats. A landed blow is a landed blow. Pac was pulling back, but you can CLEARLY see his head jerk from the impact. - And that was about as powerful as most of the nonsense Pac was landing.

Again, you seem rather overly desperate to prove that your results are the only possible correct ones. So desperate that you're ignoring facts.

How nice it must be to be you!

I won't bother with the rest, as I'd literally be better off pissing into the wind. - Or teaching a pig to sing.

Good luck with your boxing career. I think you're going to need it.

 

Isn't that PAC's bouncing hair had a large play in the fight to make a stronger
impression of JMM punches to be clear and effective? ... say if PAC had short
hair cut which was not bouncing around then nobody could really say
how effective JMM punches were :huh

In that case the visual effect of the 'stunning punches' would be diminished and there
would a strong case for giving the close rounds to PAC since he landed more in these rounds ..... :deal

 

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This thread is what this forum should be about, rather than being dominated by ****ing idiots like 'Team Elite' and 'chincheckers'. :deal

Unbiased boxing fans who devote time and effort to producing something of value. Brilliant, brilliant work. :good

 

:****off

 

You score a round 10-8 when there's evidence of severe damage and dominance by one fighter that would almost be equivalent to a knockdown. Like Round 10 of Khan-Maidana. NOT like Round 1.