Yes of course you can,the Froch V Taylor fight proved that. Please enlighten me,and many others as to how Froch "struggled" against Johnson ?
what does Bute gotta do? kidnap muther****ers in order for them to fight him? he can't exactly force people to fight him. Froch and Ward have already openly expressed that they will not fight Bute, not Bute's fault these guys dont want anything to do with him. Bute= most avoided fighter on the planet besides maybe Lara
That's true: you did not close it, you just trash-talked your interlocutor ("talking nonsense"). What exactly did you know?! Concerning myself, I stated clearly something rather different: the value of the argument is by no means absolute and cannot be safely extrapolated to predict the eventual outcome of a match Froch-Bute. If you didn't get the idea of my explanation: as well as for the first point, I was rephrasing the reasoning of Orbete, i.e. how is his Fact #5 relevant in inferring his conclusion #1. You seem to make a confusing mix-up of opinions and reasoning. He really did not seriously call him "mental ******", it was an obvious fake hypothesis put there just for outlining that from his point of view there is no other realistic explanation for Froch's behavior than alternative conclusions #1 or #2. Take my word for granted: I am familiar with this way of arguing (while obviously you aren't) and I am pretty sure his 3rd conclusion should have not been taken literally. We could eventually agree that it was not a very happy way of arguing. Someone who tells you how you should correctly interpret a message, hoping you would really be interested in correctness. If you still don't get it, so be it, I can live with your confusion. So why on earth should one feel intimidated by me pointing out two backward links in a message, for the sake of clarity? Now that's very odd. Please show me exactly what would you qualify as an "attack" to Froch from my part. The only thing I wrote about him personally starts with the keywords: Should he avoid a match with Bute after S6 final [...], and I stand every single word after this introduction: if Froch will refute a match with Bute after S6 final (after tons of arrogant declarations about Bute allegedly hiding from him), then he'll look like an idiot. Since the S6 final hasn't occurred yet and Froch did not turn down a clear offer from Bute's team, the premise is false and the conclusion simply does not stand at this point. On other forums I said something rather similar about Bute: if he will turn down an offer to fight the eventual S6 winner (after having repeatedly claimed he's willing to face him) then he will look like an idiot and everybody will be fully entitled to criticize him. I don't think Bute will avoid fighting the S6 winner, he usually stands his given word, but I'm slightly less sure about Froch's real intentions which are submerged by the trash talk noise and seem to change according to his mood from a week to another. And BTW, I have no little brother.
Reading all of your debates, there's only one thing I understand : No one is debating about the same aspect. So I'll ask a simple question : Why is Froch saying he could fight Bute after the S6, and then all of a sudden, Bute is out of the equation (meaning Froch doesn't want to fight Bute at all, for whatever reason)? A) Froch is trying to hype a future fight with Bute. B) Froch is planning on ducking Bute. C) Other, explain.
Why would anyone wanna fight Bute in Montreal after he got knocked out there only to be awarded a UD? :verysad
Huh? My point was, who Bute should fight if Abraham is truly out of the picture. You need to work on your reading comprehension skills, mate! Stop being such a knee-jerk BuTard.
I think you didn't interpret what's in bold the correct way. It doesn't mean "Bute is better than Froch", but "Bute is at least worthy of fighting him" since the debate is about Froch' comment saying Bute isn't worty of fightning either him or Ward. Don't you agree that Bute is worthy enough for a big fight?
Just watch the fight man. For a start, by taking tons of shots in the face? Oh yeah! I forgot, it is Froch defense. It doesn't count. I don't know in what fantasy world you live but it took half the fight to Froch to solve Johnson. I call that struggling. If you prefer another word, be my guess. As long as it reflects the fact that Froch didn't have an easy night, I agree in advance to any word of your choice.
Why would anyone fight Froch in UK when he lost to Dirrell but still got the decision? Why would anyone fight Ward in Oakland when he can headbutt without any warning? I think we should just stop making fights.
At the end of the day, I don't care WHO Bute fights. I don't care if he deserves the bout or not. He's going to lose, and then that will be the end of it. Why all this fuss?