Marquez Defeating Pacquiao DOES NOT Indicate Pac Loses to Floyd- A Technical Summary

pac does not perform well against pissdrinkers. :rofl

counterpunchers=low risk low reward. :smoke

 

Excellent post.

Mayweather will do things his way against Pacquiao. He'll be up against the ropes, goad Manny into unloading, block nearly all the punches, and then counter with vicious shots. Other times he will so aggressively take the fight to Manny that it won't matter one jot about the 'going back in straight lines' talk. Mayweather will just be throwing and Manny will be one thinking of defence.

 

didn't read, but title is correct...pac loses to floyd with or w/o the JMM fight

 

Great post bogotazo.

To whoever said Floyd "pre-counters", what does that even mean? He's not "pre-countering", he's finding holes in his opponents defense. JMM finds gaps in his opponent's
offense. It's a big stylistic difference.

 

pre-countering is anticipating when one's opponent is going to throw and "countering" that punch before it arrives.

There are clips of Floyd doing just this to Ortiz. It is not "esp" -- Ortiz is telegraphing his shots and in addition takes longer to deliver his punch than it takes Mayweather to "pre-counter" the blow.

 

Agreed, Mayweather wanted no part of Cotto or Margarito while those two were on top..........

Mayweather is just a pity of a cherrypicker.
He could have really gotten credit and accolades by difusing Pacquiao the monster, the one we got to see against DLH, Hatton, Cotto, and Margarito, but now that Marquez has proven Pacquiao can be subdued, how much credit can one really give Mayweather if he is to beat Pacquiao????

Quite frankly it would be a nice victory, but would fall well short of a great one no matter what he did having seen Pacquiao's deficiencies exposed against Marquez.

 

What for?

This is the first time I watched it. The second time I think I had it wider by a point. I was surprised, but I was closely watching every round with three other people who live with me in silence and we all got similar scores, within a point of each other. Each time was two different broadcasts, but I was still consistent in my rounds (say what you like about anyone else.)

 

Would be nice to see PBF fight someone who is just as fast and busy...will be an entertaining night...if PBF potshots all night, PAC has stardom power that can easily win judges..he has no advantage there

 

This post is excellent! The guy beats this beat this guy formula is ****, i think Pac will surprise PBF when they fight!

 

It's interesting that you point that out. In fencing, this is called attack on preparation or a stop hit. (Something Bruce Lee used for his own martial arts system.) It takes timing and speed, but it can be really effective in the right hands. Mayweather's check-hook KD of Hatton is a good example -- hitting him WHILE he's throwing his shot rather than waiting for him to finish.

Pac sometimes does it too...he lands a shot like this against Marquez in the third round of their recent match.

 

JMM is arguably greater, he is the more skilled boxer, always has been and should be holding atleast 2 wins over Pac on his record.

Pac has the natural athleticism, speed and power advantage and that's about it.

 

:good

 

as a *******, i can see void defeating pac, easily.

that difficult part is bring void into the ring.

 

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Very good points and I agree. Due to the reflexive nature of his counter punching and his recent desire to be the aggressor, Floyd often finds himself flatfooted, which is in fact why Mosley was able to catch him in their fight. Nevertheless, it doesn't imply that Manny would be able to land anything substantial. One thing Floyd can do that Marquez can't necessarily is sit in the pocket and still avoid 75% of the punches his opponent throws. Also, he controls distance well, and seldom stands flatfooted in front of an opponent within punching range. Mosely had the reach to get to Floyd, and I think that's an important factor.

In some ways I think Marquez is a more dangerous counter puncher than Floyd. It usually takes Floyd some rounds to time his opponent but once he has them timed, its a wrap.