Pacquiao v Marquez III......on second thoughts.....

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  1. kingmurkaveli

    kingmurkaveli Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So this is why Pac lost to a washed up Marquez?..LOL...U still havnt explained why yet...But I understand pac fans wanna argue who won...thats cool..I can respect that, but none of that has anything to do with Mayweather...Mayweather is still undefeated fighting the best champions in the game...Like I said before,There is no need for beefing about it...the pac/Floyd beef is over with and done!..U dont have to attack Floyd, everytime Pac is attacked...they arent related anymore!..Like I said before, Im down to be cool with any pacturd here, but no more argueing...u guys have to face the fact that Pac lost to Mayweather last week and he didnt even fight em!
     
  2. pac landed a lot of clean shots on marquez
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYC2qTYfSHs[/ame]
     
  3. TerryI

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    A lot of people thought Marquez won, some would say the majority, while two judges scored for Pacquiao while the other one scored it a draw. There are those who, after watching the replay, changed their minds from a Pacquiao win to a Marquez victory. For you (and others) have it the other way around.

    My point is that that was a difficult fight to judge, and there will never be a consensus on who really won. Judging a match is terribly complex, with so many factors to consider, yet it is simplified into a ten point must system. If a fighter wins a round convincingly, but without knocking down or beating up badly his opponent, the score is 10-9. If the fighter barely wins, it is still a 10-9. There is no 10-9.8 score. And then factor in that scoring is a subjective process. Thus a close fight will always include controversy.

    That's why I favor having another fight, Pacquiao vs Marquez, installment number 4, so that the question of who is the better fighter will once and for all be answered definitively. And then maybe not.
     
  4. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lol....its like you're almost serious.:rofl "washed up". I can't answer a question based on fluff.:lol: Mayeather is only a topic because he's now ready to fight Pac.

    Who you say is "done"..:D how ironic is that Merk? But you know what I'm talking about.:yep And why would you hope the "beef" is done? We have to have a fight before beef can be "done" Merk. You play the dumb card all too well. You! You're good..:yep

    Using your logic....Floyd lost to Pac twice already.... But again....you knew that. Didn't you Merk?:hey
     
  5. divac

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    :lol::lol::lol::lol:Poor Pinoy who made that video piece is relugated to repeating Pacquiao land single punches that dont even snap Marquez' head back.
    ......and he shows the same exacty punch landed 3 or 4 times in a row on slow-mo, as if we're supposed to believe its a different punch sequence.:lol:

    Pacquiao is supposed to look great when you make a highlight reel of the fight for him......he comes out looking less than ordinary even in that video meant to show his highlights.:nut
     
  6. kingmurkaveli

    kingmurkaveli Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Floyd's not fighting Pac...Pac is having a rematch with Marquez, and once he loses, the fight with Mayweather wont mean anything...Once Pac lost to a bum ass 40 yr old Marques who was coming off a one yr layoff, he killed the pac fight..Like I sdaid before, u dont have to attack Mayweather anymore...He and Pac are not enemies any longer since they wont fight!
     
  7. kingmurkaveli

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    I would like it to be Khan or Maybe Pretty Boy Sergio....I think Saul Alvaraz is a bum, and a hypejob, but he's big and he's young, so if Floyd fought him I would be Okay with that..But I wanna see Floyd fight Khan cuz I think it will be a very tough fight
     
  8. kingmurkaveli

    kingmurkaveli Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wow Pac landed a punch...My first time seeing him landing damn near anything..LOL....Pac lost bro...Mismatch..lets stop arguing over it!..Mayweather fans and Pac fans are no longer enemies anymore!
     
  9. thanosone

    thanosone Love Your Brother Man Full Member

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    How old are you? You seem 12.
     
  10. kingmurkaveli

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    Why do u and everyone else keep posting this edited video of Pac landing single punches?...The vids edited...I saw the WHOLE fight..UNEDITED...With Marques making Pac look foolish, and Pac looking sad, out of control, frustrated..like he didnt even kno what to do...Get over it and face the fact that ur guy lost..Its over
     
  11. KnuckleUp99

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    I thought your name was "Merk"? Not "Cleo" the psychic.:lol: "Call me now":rofl Tell me Merk....what's the numbers for Mega Jackpot this week?

    No one knows who Floyd or PAC are fighting next... but chances are it's 50/50 on whether it's Floyd or JMM. PAC, Roach and Ariza have all expressed Floyd, then JMM but Bob talking JMM again.

    Either way.....both are fights PAC will have a real challenge in so we'll see a great night of boxing.....which I know is all you care about Merk... You exude the essence of a true boxing fan underneath the ALT you've taken on.:D

    Oh... and I love how you are coming to defense of Floyd in true ***** fashion... Even going as far as to defending him by creating your own arguments. "Don't attack Floyd":rofl:rofl "PAC and Floyd aren't enemies anymore":lol: How are you gonna act made in your ALT?
     
  12. kingmurkaveli

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    Look, Pac just ducked Floyd but u dont see me attacking Pac, cuz even if he WANTED to fight Floyd, the fight really doesnt make sense anymore....it wont make as much money..I think Pac has a decent chance at Mayweather, cuz He doesnt counter with combos like Mexican fighters...Only prollem is no one else thinks Pac has a chance at Mayweather so the fight is not as lustrous as it once was...so Im not saying that Pac isnt fighting Floyd next cuz he dont wont to, Im just saying the fight wont happen period, cuz no one thinks he is "the guy to beat Mayweather" like we USED to think back when he fought Oscar...He must get past marques convincingly but thats impossible, and Once he has the rematch with Marquez, he will lose and Floyd Wont fight Pac coming off a loss...Pac has lost his space in the Mayweather sweepstakes and to me, its nearly impossible for him to earn it back unless he beats Martinez or Khan...at First it was Mayweather & Pac..But now, its Mayweather by himself cuz Pac really doesnt deserve a fight with Mayweather...Not coming off this performance so What can Pac do?..Have the rematch with Marques and Lose?..Like I said before, Once one of these guys lost to the other, the mayweather/pacman hate would end there and the fans of the soldier who loss, would bow out gracefully...But Pac losing to a shot Marques is WAAAAAAAY Worse than him losing to Floyd, so now its like there not going to even fight anymore...No need for us to argue about dumb****....Pac and Floyd wont fight and their not enemies anymore..so now we all can be neutral fans of them both..Pac is a good little fighter, see I even just complimented him!..Proof that the war is over my dawg!..Truces!
     
  13. KO KIDD

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    i dont think Hopkins vs Calzaghe is a worthy comparison

    Hopkins was largely inactive and did nothing

    Juan was way more active than Hopkins was
     
  14. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Don't be like that Merk.... Even if it's your ALT personality on ESB... it's overly pathetic to say PAC ducked Floyd when it's clear Floyd was the one who found ways to stall, avoid and duck the fight with Manny a couple years back.

    It's not really hard to see that ALL of Floyd's actions were COUNTER productive in cultivating a fight of this magnitude. Let's move on to something you actually have a chance in putting up a half way decent argument.

    Of course it won't make as much money.....a lot of the luster of the MEGA fight has lost steam after the public got sick of waiting on Floyd and listening to any new excuses NOT to make the fight.

    There are a lot of fans who favor Floyd. It's the logical stance based on the old saying that "you always bet on the boxer". Floyd is the more technically skilled boxer and that's the name of the game. But there are still a lot of fans who favor PAC...and PAC is synonymous with exciting fights so no matter what... PAC generates a lot of interest and a lot of money. It's still a homerun for boxing if this fight happens.

    Floyd would fight PAC if he felt he could win and Floyd is pushing for Manny next. PAC wants Floyd next... we might have the fight that has been so out of reach come spring of 2012. You should be excited Merk.

    No one considers a top P4P fighter shot... which you already know Merk. But it's still funny every time you say it.:rofl

    PAC and Floyd should happen but chances are if it was going to happen..... it would have already taken place a couple years ago. But I don't see a fat lady singing, do you? And I really don't think "Cleo" the psychic is a member of ESB, right merk?:lol:

    I was never mad or upset Merk. I enjoy the dialogue. It helps pass time when I can chop it up with you on boxing matters. I'm glad you can give PAC props. For some reason i don't think it's all that difficult as you try to make it seem.

    And don't worry about me Merk... we were always good. I never took offense to you calling me dumbass or *******. I roll with the punches.
     
  15. kingmurkaveli

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    Okay..lol..But the fight is simply not happening..Marques was shot...we all knew this...Pac basically got mismatched by a guy Floyd humiliated and Pac lost to a shot 40 yr old version of him...Pac LOST his chance to fight Floyd, when he lost to a washed up guy that Floyd humiliated when he was close to Prime and when Floyd came off a 2 yr layoff...so Pac cant earn a fight with Floyd unless he beats Marques convicingly, but thats IMPOSSIBLE..Marques will win the rematch and then Pac will NEVER make it back to the top..Like I said before, the pac/Floyd beef is over man..U dont have to associate Pac's name to Floyd's cuz Pac lost to Floyd last week..No beef..Its other people pac can, and will fight..Marques, Bradley, Mike Jones, then he will retire...none of those fights will earn him a shot at Floyd speccially since Marquez wrote a perfect blueprint that Bradley will Follow...I always said Pac will kill Brad, but Now I think its impossible..Bradley is way stronger than Marques..I wouldnt mind seeing Floyd and Bradley, IF Bradley beats Pac..Other than That, I wont Mayweather to fight Khan, and Sergio, and he can retire off of that!