Why cant Mayweather fight Pacquiao in the pocket?

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  1. Vidic

    Vidic Rest in Peace Manny Full Member

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    I really think this would be the case.
     
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  2. Concrete

    Concrete Boxing Addict Full Member

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    None of what you are saying matters. Shane Mosley wasn't known as a mover and yet he was able to use movement and kept circling Pac all night at the age of 38.

    Mayweather isn't Margarito where he just isn't going to be able to move around like Marquez cuz he has lead feet. Mayweather can employ all the movement he desires if he chooses to fight that way if he sees that as a weakness in Pac.
     
    Concrete, Nov 18, 2011
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  3. Bald_Toad

    Bald_Toad Ring Title Full Member

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    yeah mayweather does NOT like to get hit
     
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  4. megavolt

    megavolt Constantly Shadowboxing Full Member

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    Where do you guys get these? I can cut the vids, but dunno where to upload them they're usually too big in file size
     
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  5. Gander Tasco

    Gander Tasco Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nope he freaks out and goes into a panic. Either he covers up or runs straight back to the ropes. Did it with Judah, Corley, Ortiz, and Mosley.
     
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  6. Bald_Toad

    Bald_Toad Ring Title Full Member

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    mosley was running, it wasnt effective moving and he never opened up to get hit in return:patsch

    whos saying mayweather is margarito, all were saying is hes not going to fight like marquez did, maybe you guys should watch mayweather fight sometime:lol:
     
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  7. Gander Tasco

    Gander Tasco Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Mayweather can 'try' to fight like JMM did , but he'll still revert to his regular habits. Floyd will fight like Floyd .
     
    Gander Tasco, Nov 18, 2011
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  8. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    I showed you Mayweather starting off the fight with Ortiz circling to his right. Infact Mayweather did everything in that fight he usually does against Orthodox fighters. Such as baiting him in against the ropes and landing the check hook.

    He pressured Ortiz and walked him down. He circled Ortiz and boxed to his right landing lead right hands and ducking under Ortiz retaliation.

    I dont know what fight you were watching but Floyd certainly didnt stand in a straight line and fight Ortiz he literally did everything. Thus his versatility.

    You seem to believe Floyd fights southpaws in a simplistic way, he doesnt. Infact Floyd showed more movement and variation against Ortiz then he did Mosley.
    Floyd says he doesnt move his feet because he doesnt need to. I showed you clips of Floyd effortlessly using his superb upper body movement to duck and slip marquez punches. Then I showed Pac flinging punches at Marquez and missing then following up off balance because of his poor footwork. I'll ask you again why cant Floyd do the same, considering not only is he better defensively then Marquez but he is bigger?
     
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  9. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Panic? :rofl Floyd is laughing at Ortiz as he punches himself out and gets frustrated. Where is the panic?
     
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  10. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    He doesnt need to fight like Marquez. He is miles better then Marquez in every area. And Marquez owned Pac 3 times. :-(
     
    MichiganWarrior, Nov 18, 2011
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  11. AnotherFan

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    Trolling a bit, are we? :lol:
     
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  12. megavolt

    megavolt Constantly Shadowboxing Full Member

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    Disciplined??? Come on man... Ortiz is a wild and elementary fighter who had to headbutt his way to closing the gap. Not that I disagree with that approach however :yep
     
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  13. pejevan

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    that is not trolling.

    that is just plain dumb.

    If you are not floored by that, I don't know what will.
     
    pejevan, Nov 18, 2011
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  14. Concrete

    Concrete Boxing Addict Full Member

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    -He had plenty of opportunities to land his right hand while circling just didn't take them as he didn't trust his hand speed and chin over Pac's at the point in his career.

    -If you just say that he won't fight him like Marquez did I can agree with you, but i'm talking about the movement part not fighting exactly like Marquez.

    -You don't know how Mayweather is going to approach fighting Pac, he is a more complete fighter then most so he is capable of fighting Pac doing different things through out the fight. I agree with you that he most likely won't fight Pac like Marquez all fight but he will use movement like that plenty of times during the fight. As well as fight flat footed and in the pocket plenty of times in the fight. He will adapt to whats working. He isn't going to just stick with one thing unless its having overwhelming success or if it continually is getting him hit.
     
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  15. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Nasim trained Mosley to fight Pac in that way. Mosley was to shot to counter Pacquiao. There were clear openings. Infact I was screaming for Mosley to throw the right hand when Pac came in with his wild punches and bad footwork. He was just too shot to do it. Marquez proved its easy. Mayweather will prove its easier. Pacquiao's been exposed. He hasnt improved technically one lick from getting owned by Morales.

    Mayweather doesnt fight exactly Marquez. But what they do with the right hand and counter punching is similar. The fight on the same principles. Only difference is Mayweather is miles better then the lightweight Mexican that owned your heroes ass 3 times *******. :yep
     
    MichiganWarrior, Nov 18, 2011
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