Though cross-dressing deep throat expert and DIMINATA alt Popkins probably has an agenda, I agree this was a close battle & difficult to score. Manlover Marquez probably deserved it, but some idiots on here scored it 9-3 etc. After viewing most of the fight I realize those were the posts of hysterical rabid fanboys. I'm sure top esb posters from Team Elite and The Chincheckers can shed some light on the true accuracy of the scoring.
Your own p4p top 5 looks like this: 1.Joe Calzaghe 2.Mario Veit 3.Branko "The Pitbull" Sobot 4.Mger Mkstry&z%cnjcc,mn 5.Mario Veit again Because you're a cum-slurping ****** who doesn't like boxing, but loves white Europeans. :good
As I Chinchecker myself I too believe it was a close fight. I think you can reasonably have it a draw.
7-5 to Pac. that's after watching a re-run, in the cold light of day. I wouldn't argue too much with a couple of rounds either way, a draw is quite concievable. I'm thinking a lot of Marquez fans, and possibly neutral fans, got carried away with Marquez being so competitive. Being more competitive than expected is one thing, winning the fight is quite another.
This is how things work in general, you make a boxing based post someone disagrees then que witty insults back and forth with youtube videos, gifs and other clever images. Peppered heavily with emoticons to emphasise the point.
*******s want to reduce this fight to a slo-mo contest to see who landed touched eachother with the gloves more often. Its possible that if you did that and counted the connects in that manner, you could stretch it and have the fight closer than it really was counting flicks and partial connects. A fight is meant to be seen in real time or you could not judge correctly the velocity and torque in which the punches were thrown and landed. There is no better way to judge the effectiveness of a punch than to see it in real time. That first round for example, Marquez landed to Pacquiao's body not only in 1's and 2's, but in combination as well. Marquez had mustard on those shots that Pac's jab flicks to the head did not. Let me make one last point here about HBO's utter bias. In the past, when it has suited them and there agenda, they have gone well and beyond to give credit and score rounds only based on one fighter making the other fight his fight. For example, a known skilled boxer might have been lured into a brawl and actually gotten the better of the exchanges against a fighter known for his brawling tactics......... but I've found that HBO regularly and consistently have sided with the known brawler in cases like this only because the fight was being fought in his style (brawling) and simply dismissing the fact that the boxer was landing the better shots even though he was lured to brawl. HBO has done it vice versa as well, "the brawler cant possibly be given the credit by outhinking and outboxing a known boxer, and so they give more credit to the fighter that was percieved as a better boxer going into the fight. For this Marquez-Pacquiao fight, HBO threw that out the window. It did'nt matter to them that Pacquiao was being forced to fight at Marquez' tempo and style and that the fight was never close to becoming a brawl type of a fight. 99 times out of 100, the HBO commentating team would be going on and on about it at nauseum. Had HBO followed the way they call fights previously they would have been harping about Marquez forcing Pacquiao to fight his fight, from distance and without any prolonged exchanges. This was a technical boxing match that HBO stayed mum about Marquez making Pacquiao fight at his tempo and style. To make it worse, not only did HBO not take what they always have taken into consideration (who's making who fight there fight) but they actually had the audacity to criticize Marquez (the boxer/counterpuncher) for not taking the fight to Pacquiao and attacking more.atschatschatsch:nut
Pac "outbox" Marquez, he landed more Marquez D was nowhere to be seen, his main D was to move and back up and then he would get lucky punches during exchanges but Pac was landing left straights and right hooks all night, Marquez couldnt stop it
You might be right. The judges must have figured Marquez' cleaner and harder connects should'nt be credited, as they simply must have been placed there by luck.