Translation: Marquez Breaks Down His Fight With Pacquiao In The 'Golpe A Golpe' Ring

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Bogotazo, Nov 19, 2011.


  1. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Funny thing is, he hasn't got a single knockdown photo for Welterweight Pacquiao, does he? :yep


    You're all welcome for the translation. It's my pleasure and I wish more people were willing to engage in such nuanced discussion about the technical aspects of the sport without resorting to fanboy nuthuggery. It's the art of the sport, after all. This is my way of trying to bring some of that back to ESB.
     
  2. megavolt

    megavolt Constantly Shadowboxing Full Member

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    Good call, didn't think about that. Still think he's losing his old hunger though. I wanna see that gung-ho filipino of old

    Also, when Roach said point #2 at the time I was like why... :patsch
     
  3. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Because Roach realized Marquez was 38 years old and wanted the accolades that go with a gameplan of Pacquiao outboxing a Masterboxer in Marquez.

    Roach is'nt that stupid to think Pacquiao is the better boxer, but I'd bet he was confident that there was no way Marquez at 38 could deal with Pacquaio's in and out to the side strategy.

    I dont think anyone knew for sure whether Marquez could or could'nt at his age deal with Pacquiao fighting on the backfoot. and making Marquez come to him.
    ......but Roach said what he said so that he could later say, "I told you all Pacquiao is a totally different fighter now from the one that lost twice before against Marquez."

    Roach wanted to have Pacquiao outbox Marquez so that he could lay claim that Pacquiao could beat Marquez either way, by brawling or boxing.
    He was sadly mistaken.
     
  4. DobyZhee

    DobyZhee Loyal Member

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    you will never see manny pacquiao break down his fights like that.
     
  5. Phanekim

    Phanekim Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i said right after fight that that left uppercut really made difference in that fight.
     
  6. Don't Sleep

    Don't Sleep Personal Trainer Full Member

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    Don't hate on Marquez because he fought a good fight.

    The reason Pac was hesitant was becuase he is a more technical fighter than fights 1 and 2. You really think Marquez' conditioning coach (regardless of his past) could turn him into the incredible hulk in 2 months, come on man. And actually, marquez hurt him more in the 2nd fight than the 3rd one. Manny has just been fighting opposition in the past 2 years, that didn't have the pure boxing skills of Maruez, so a lot of people were surprised by the oucome of the fight, as they thought it would be a landslide victory. Though it was close (as I don't feel it was a robbery), Manny struggled with a 38 year old, still great, but worn fighter and didn't look impressive.
     
  7. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    :good
     
  8. Brownies

    Brownies Well-Known Member Full Member

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    After all, it was a really good fight between two great fighters. We seem to overlook that.
     
  9. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Interviewer: Hey Manny welcome. I wanted to ask you questions about the fight. Why does marquez give you so much trouble?

    Manny: Hey, well eh he was afraid to throw and he wouldn't stand still like umm my other opponents did. So it was difficult

    I: Were you afraid of him counterpunching you?

    M: Yes, i was afraid of he countering me. I've had a lot of trouble in de past with counter punchers

    I: Well since you had so much trouble with Marquez's counterpunching, how do you go about beating Mayweather?

    M: Uhh I leave dat up to my promoter

    I: :huh no no Manny, I'm asking, how would you go about beating Floyd?

    M: I uh......um... If Mosley can hurt him, then i can erh finish him

    I: So is that the fight you want next?

    M: Well lets fight and get it on. I'm willing to take any test at any time
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  10. Don't Sleep

    Don't Sleep Personal Trainer Full Member

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    LMAO at :nonono!
     
  11. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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  12. irishny

    irishny Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    I see Marquez has taken to wearing those slim fitting shirts now that he has a bit more muscle!
     
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    pac landed more clean effective punches

    marquez got "outbox" thats why his face was a mess at the end of the fight

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    Pac wins


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  14. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't need the translation and therefore, JMM never denied he stepped on Pac to start with. I like JMM's slick boxing inside and that lateral movement to slip the jab, left uppercut him and right counter on the fast counter-move. However there is a lot of Mexican blood around these threads and videos, and we all must recognize that there is a lot of thirst in a revenge against Pacquiao ( twice against Morales and MAB and three times in controversial fashion against JMM)...
     
  15. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Nobody, especially the vast majority of viewers who thought Marquez won the fight, cares about your irrelevant butthurt crusade of visuals or what you think.