What did Jones JR do to be considered a demigod?

I would have to agree

 

Pretty much sums up his Career!

 

The biggest issue with Roy in terms of history is that he had no rivalries to define him. Now, there are two ways to look at that; one, he was just that much better than everyone else, or two, there just weren't that many other talented fighter in their prime to fight to enhance his legacy. Many claim it's the second thing and that's where the skepticism comes from. Ray Robinson had Lamotta, Ali had Frazier, Manny had Marquez, Morales and Barrera and to some extent Floyd (should they ever fight). Roys toughest tests knocked him out (Johnson, Tarver), or beat him convincingly (Calzaghe).

 

Johnson,Tarver, and Calzaghe are collectively tougher than Toney,Hopkins, and Hill....are you ****ing serious?

 

Now, there's no denying that the man was as special physically as a fighter can get... but, his exploits are overblown by his lack of special moments against relative opposition. He's likened to a Shawn Kemp of basketball. Physical freak, yet no defining playoff win to qualify the assumed and seemingly limitless physical ability.

 

:deal and Toney was having trouble making weight believe it or not.

 

Johnson and Tarver were not his toughest test, both fighters defeated an over the hill Roy Jones. When Jones fought Calzaghe he was beyond shot. RJJ is one of the greatest fighters of all time. I would place him in the to 25. If he had retired after he defeated Ruiz, he would be in the top 10.

 

There is not one single instance in Boxing history, save some very short flash in the pan here today gone tomorrow fighters who did NOT have a challenging career defining fight. Noone is that good. Not Sugar Ray Robinson, Leonard, Hearns, Ali, Armstrong, or anyone who would garner the same reverence Roy does. So, what gives...

 

He fought a lot of nobodies and avoided Nigel Benn and Dariusz Michasomethingski.
There. I said it.

 

If you can look past the steroids his supernatural athleticism made him look godly

 

Just look at Jones' highlights, and compare that to the speed of everyone in the S6. Night and day.

 

That's why you're givin' a pass for posting a thread like this, AF. Look at some of the YouTubes of Jones at his peak. All your questions will be answered.

 

Toney could have been a rival. Hopkins could have been a rival. The thing is, a prime RJJ HAS no rivals. Hopkins was a pretty complete fighter when he took on RJJ, it's not like it was his first time at the rodeo. Hopkins is one of the best middleweights that ever lived, you just about have to put him top 3, and he was NO competition for Roy. At no point in Nard's career would he have posed a serious challenge to a prime Roy, and I'm a HUGE Hopkins fan, I like him a hell of a lot better than I like dogfighting Roy Jones. A lot of fighters people now consider also rans would have been champs without RJJ around to make them look slow and weak. If Roy was around people on this board would be calling everyone in the super 6 a bunch of cab drivers, because there's not one of them that Roy wouldn't clown.

Also this glass jaw thing is for ******s, and I'm pretty sure that even the people posting that **** know it, unless they really ARE ******s. A fighter gets old. Even demigods.

 

:deal

Had Hopkins the ATG followed Jones and campaigned in the same division as him, trust me his (Hopkins') career wouldn't be as celebrated as it is now.

Jones CLEANED out the LHW division for years, with the exception being Michalczewski, and Jones STILL beat nearly all the dudes Dariusz beat in more impressive fashion. The man was 49-1 when he faced Tarver the 2nd time, and STILL the 1 loss was by DQ when he instinctively hit Griffin when he took a knee.



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Jones has a pretty good resume, don't let any of these fools deceive you. It's a lot better than Calzaghe's, it's just that Jones resume is not "Great", only merely good, a bit shy of great -- but his achievements are great, despite that. He beat 2 ATG's (stop it with the green **** with Hopkins, they were both up and coming fighters who were just peaking, fighting for the title and Jones beat him one handed -- hopkins still had skill he has now at the time even a ATG trainer in his corner, but he was more offensive oriented then), stop it with the Toney having difficulty making weight... guys Toney always had difficulty making weight at MW/SMW, he was a guy that weighed 200+ in high school when he played football. He has never fought at match at those weights where he did not have difficulty. This is a bs excuse, Toney said he was really and good for the fight, he got beat because Jones was better and he underestimated him and got surprised, nuff said.

He beat a string of very good fighters, who won titles after losing to him, showing their predigee like Woods, Hill, and Gonalez, just to name a few. There are many more good fighters he beat beyond these 3.

Again, good resume, but not "great" one. Even if he fought Benn it would not have made his resume "great", excuses would've made for "Benn", given the time that this fight could have occurred. Benn was never going to be the same after his fight with the G-Man, which would've been the only time this fight really could've been made -- for crying out loud the guy was supposed to FIGHT Jones but he loss a SD to that guy that Jones KO'd early in his next fight. Had benn won he would've had the fight. Eubanks fight would've been better anyways... but Eubanks didn't care for it. Mind you a lot of these guys were offered money to fight Jones, but turned it down, but it makes sense, fighting a Jones you want millions, even though they would've got their biggest payday with him, but for the risk, they should've been offered more.