Roy Jones vs Billy Conn (resume and p4p standing)

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  1. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Why not fight both?
     
  2. Surf-Bat

    Surf-Bat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Because first off, there was no demand for a Burley-Conn match. Second, it was a maximum risk, minimal gain proposition for Conn. When you're lined up for a big money fight with the heavyweight champion of the world (it was already signed, sealed and delivered) you don't jeopardize it by signing to fight somebody else, especially someone like Charley Burley. There was absolutely nothing to be gained by fighting him.

    If Burley had earned a shot at Conn then I'm sure he would have gotten one. Conn ducked no one in his career.
     
  3. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Conn a fair boxer in his own right but c'mon, this is Roy Jones!

    I've always said nobody stands against Roy in a boxing match. Even as a lightheavy he did more with his career, defenses, even unified it and across four divisions, was dominant
     
  4. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    this might be like Camacho Davis
     
  5. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    More because he was off to HW to chase Joe Louis, no?
     
  6. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    :lol: yeah, why not fight Louis AND Burley, then he can have fought two guys that would have beaten Jones

    Sorry man, but it makes me laugh when you insist that Conn should be fighting Louis AND Burley, but Jones can't manage to make fights with Eubank, Benn, DM, a HW other than Ruiz or rematches with superior versions of Hopkins and Toney (yeah yeah, I know he was...)
     
  7. janitor

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    In terms of resume Conn towers over Jones.

    That almost makes discusion of which of them would have won head to head irrelevant.

    In that respect I would favour Conn, but you never know.
     
  8. janitor

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    Conn has much better wins at light heavyweight than Jones.

    He beat people who were greats in their own right, in their primes.
     
  9. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    It's interesting. Conn's iron negates Jones's power, Conn's hurtful but non-concussive punches probably render Jones's weak chin negligible.
     
  10. Surf-Bat

    Surf-Bat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pretty much, yeah. The offer was so absurd on it's face. It just made absolutely no sense whatsoever at the time. Burley wasn't even on Conn's radar. Especially not from the perspective of weight division, professional status or drawing power. When monetary backing and status are taken into account Burley's people were in no position to throw out any credible challenge to Conn. It would be like Mike McCallum challenging Michael Spinks before Spinks fought Tyson.
     
  11. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I love this Conn ducked Burley crap... it's LAUGHABLE
     
  12. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Yeah, it was a hometown fight when Conn was no longer a hometown fighter.


    Of all the guys who failed to fight Burley, Conn is the least culpable in my view. You have to be ridiculous to criticise a guy for chasing Joe ****ing Louis (to give him his full title).
     
  13. Surf-Bat

    Surf-Bat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The genesis of this myth is the story that when Johnny Ray was offered the fight he said something to the effect of "No! I don't want Burley! Don't ever even mention his name again!" Whatever it was he said, some Burley-booster decided to twist it out of context(or make it up altogether) and make it sound like Ray was afraid to see Conn fight Burley.

    Ray was an alcoholic and a very irascible, impatient man. It's very easy to imagine him exploding at some clueless dolt who was wasting his time with absurd challenges. Conn's record clearly shows that Ray and Conn avoided no one. In fact they were sometimes criticized for taking TOO MANY risks!
     
  14. teeto

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    I thought that PP was a better poster than this.

    The 'why not fight both' line was the icing.
     
  15. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Surf, your on target logic will not sway biased questions. :good