Does David Haye deserve another Klitschko payday?

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  1. Vergilius

    Vergilius Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If David Haye is a warrior then Kevin Johnson is the second coming of Julio Cesar Chavez.
     
  2. Joe_MacKenzie

    Joe_MacKenzie Boxing Addict banned

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    :lol:
     
  3. Vergilius

    Vergilius Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That may be, but at least Chisora tries to engage and that means I'd rather see him against Wladimir or Vitali than Haye.
     
  4. Joe_MacKenzie

    Joe_MacKenzie Boxing Addict banned

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    Yes. Chisora would make for a more entertaining fight than the craven Haye.
     
  5. Thomas!!

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    I'd Rather see Haye Vs Chisora tbh
     
  6. Thomas!!

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    Are the only Haye fights you seen the Valuev and Wladimir fights ?

    Because Haye before this was actually an entertaining fighter. I tend not to let Haye-tred cloud my judgement like some and tend to see the bigger picture, which is, the vast majority of Haye fights are entertaining.
     
  7. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl

    Awful post from a poster who is clearly regurgitating the same old rubbish with out doing his own research. :-(

    Ducking Adamek . . . . right

    - Haye won the WBC and WBA cruiser titles in November 2007 by beating Mormeck. Adamek had just made his debut in the cruiserweight division a month or two earlier.

    - Shortly after the Mormeck fight Haye announced his intention to move to Heavy as he was having trouble making the cruiser limit. However, Frank ****** went all out to set up a domestic unification fight between Haye and Enzo Maccarinelli - Haye agreed to have one last fight at cruiserweight.

    - Haye added the WBO title to his collection by beating Maccarinelli in March 2008. Haye immediately stated that he was moving up to heavyweight.

    - One month later Adamek fought O'Neil Bell in an IBF Cruiserweight title ELIMINATOR

    - Haye moved to heavy and fought Monte Barret at heavyweight in November 2008.

    - One month later, Adamek won the IBF Cruiserweight title from Steve Cunningham in December 2008.

    Yeah - a lot of ducking going on there :patsch


    PWND

    Cunningham was a no one who didn't even have a fan in his bedroom. There was no money in it and USS kept his mouth schtum whilst Haye was in the division.

    :lol:

    Yeah, and Hatton was jumping up 7lbs - not 40+ like Haye would be against a Klit

    If he goes form CW straight into the fight with the Klits it's 'he doesn't deserve it'. If he fought a few warm up fights it's he's too scared to fight the Klits

    :patsch

    Fact is Haye did well at cruiserweight. Then he moved up to Heavyweight and helped create one of the most anticpated fights of the last decade and gave the Wladimir his career high pay day. His slick black style exposed the myth of Wlad having an ATG jab and devastating KO power.

    You just hatin'
     
  8. Joe_MacKenzie

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    Haye and Audley are the only two fighters I've ever seen go a full round without throwing a single punch! :-(

    Even Kevin Johnson in his fight with Vitali threw a few jabs in every round.
     
  9. chitownfightfan

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    OK, So Haye has beaten an older Barret, an older Ruiz, an older Harrison, and older Valuev, but a younger Mormeck, and a younger Enzo.

    Harrison ALONE is a better win than ANYTHING Arreola has done in his entire career, having NEVER beaten a single Bclass fighter, even a half dead one.

    Potvetkin deserves the Klitschko fight much more than Haye, but he's NOT WILLING.

    Chambers has been injured after his loss last yr to Wlad. He's eyeing a return against Potvetkin.

    There are MANY fringe contenders who simply cannot make the step up due to being consistently avoided, for whichever reasons. These guys have been knocking on the door for years in some cases, but IMO, their time is coming.

    Helenius has done more in his last 6/7/8 fights than most top 25 contenders have doen in their careers, but listening to him talk, he seems content to build his resume and await a Vitali retirement before pursuing a title shot. Perhaps in an effort to avoid a possible rematch clause or K2 tag team clause.

    Some in his camp think he can beat Wlad tomorrow, but would likely immediately lose his titles in a match vs Vitali, so DON'T expect Robbe to be challenging for a real title until Vitali is GONE.
     
  10. Thomas!!

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    Well done you've seen the Audley fight too. Any others?
     
  11. Daruf

    Daruf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Gigantic amount of self own and half assed research so thats not worth responding too.

    Haye also did not have to jump anything, what he did was not dehydrate anymore.
    He weighed exactly what he weighed as cruiser on fight night vs Wlad.

    I know you are a misinformed troll but try harder next time.
     
  12. itsa huge bitch

    itsa huge bitch Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    yes he just lost to his little brother who is supposidly weaker and all round shitter than himself so why fight him#??..vitali is a cherry picker..**** you vitali and your lame ass title
     
  13. Kid_Boxing

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  14. itsa huge bitch

    itsa huge bitch Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    helenius has a better chance at vitali at this point than against wladimir..rob just isnt good enough..the question is will he ever be tho???
     
  15. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    Wow, you can't counter my points with any actual facts (because I already used them all) so you just dismiss me as a troll. That's when you know you've been pwnd.

    Completely missed the point about Hatton. Hatton jumped a division 7lbs higher. Haye may have weighed more or less the same as at Cruiser (although it's clear to anyone with eyes that he added muscle mass) but he was moving to a division where he would be giving 40lbs to the champ. It's not complicated, how come you don't get it?